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Cartoon Network Acquires Neon Genesis Evangelon

The Fool writes "Anime News Network is reporting that Cartoon network will be airing All of Neon Genesis Evangelon. You can also read the Toon Zone speculation as well as some more."

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  1. Oh great. by Surye · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Too bad it won't be intact at all unless it's in the Adult Swim line up.

  2. All of it? by Scrameustache · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In all it's gore, religious themes and sexuality?

    Because I'm pretty sure it will be heavily censored and edited, like Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon were.

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    1. Re:All of it? by Scrameustache · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Evangelion and Sailor Moon are teenager shows. The hint pointing to this would be that the main characters are teens in high school.

      Dragon ball is more of a younger boys show, but it was FULL of panties and old pervert jokes in the original, and they cut everything they could for the english north-american version (Canada gets the same version as the states...).

      The thing is, in the land of the lawsuits and multimillion fines for half a second of a far away and partially covered nipple, censorship is a given.

      But for a lot of old farts, animation = for kids. The appeal of anime is partly that japan isn't limited in their animation to kids, so they get to make quality products that aren't for kids, and those create a scandal with the please-think-of-the-children crowd who think that if it's animated, it's for kids, no ifs ands or buts.

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    2. Re:All of it? by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Did you even watch the last episode of GITS: SAC they showed on Adult swim?

      No.

      Blood splatter and all from that sniper bullet.

      Violence. That gets past censors quite easily.
      Nipples, however, are an evil that must be forever hidden.

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  3. Welcome to 1995! by fict0n · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Adult Swim sure is cutting edge, be sure to invest in them- I have a feeling they're about to break wide open..

  4. Hopeful by kungfustickman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hopefully they don't do the "Foxbot" on evangelon. For those of you who don't know Neo Genesis Evangelon is considered to be one of the "ledganday" animes.

  5. Popular perception by m50d · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Whilst I'm glad to see it being shown, I feel that having it on that channel won't do much good for the popular perception of animé in the US. I'd rather see it on some culture-oriented channel that shows foreign artsy films and similar, although that doesn't exactly result in an accurate perception it's a closer one than we currently get.

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  6. Not worth your viewing time. by Faust7 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here is an example of what you can expect to see should you decide to submit yourself to such torture.

    I honestly don't think anyone should view this series in its mutilated, dubbed form on CN, not even newbies. Those of us that love the show most likely already have the boxed set, and can watch it in its proper, unedited, subbed format. Those of us that haven't seen it would be getting the worst possible introduction to the show on CN and might even form incorrect opinions about it based on that mess.

  7. What's the Point? Really? by Enonu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Neon Genesis Evangelion is the defininitive of what the Japanese aren't afraid to do with entertainment: create something with the sole purpose of f**cking with your head.

    First they take Christian themes, such as Angels and the Lance of Longinus, and twist them into something entirely different. Next they take 14 year olds, give them all psychological problems on a scale that you only can imagine, and pit them with the task of saving humanity's individuality. Finally, combine this with everybody else having complexes about being God, being worthless, and having one's existence recognized by others, and you have Neon Genesis Evangelion.

    Forget the nudity, everything else is too intense for CN's demographic, and honestly, I don't feel comfortable showing the anime to others without a good sense of self. It makes you feel uncomfortable at times, and unless you can actually enjoy having your mind twisted likes a towel and twacked against the ass of Jesus Christ, don't watch this anime.

    If I were a censor working at CN, I'd rather try to censor DVDA porn with clown midgets than Neon Genesis Evangelion. There is no point in trying without destroying the story. Really.

  8. Translation by Himring · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Genesis Evangelon

    Thanks to the classical Greek I studied in college is translated: "creation good news"

    Genesis=creation, beginning, origin
    Evangelon=(eu)good, (angelion)=messege, news

    In case anyone was interested that is ... please apply KY to all flames....

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  9. Eva's Endings (no spoilers) by DeadScreenSky · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Basically there is two different endings in Evangelion: there are the original last two episodes of the 26 episode TV series, and two films that 'replace'/augment them. The two different endings seem to actually depict the exact same events, just in two very different ways. Though honestly, it isn't entirely clear to me if they literally end at the same point, but 99% of them depict the same events. The creators intend for you to watch the TV series (including the TV ending) first, then the two films (they haven't retroactively eliminated the last two TV episodes or anything).

    The confusion is over the quality and (more importantly) fan reaction to the different endings. Towards the end of Eva's TV run the animators at Gainax were having budget, censorship (due to the show's increasing popularity), and even severe psychological issues, leading some fans to suggest that the last two episodes aren't what the creators actually wanted, or that it somehow is untrue to the episodes that came before them. Apparently there was a big fan backlash in Japan against Gainax because of the ending, leading to them creating the two films as a 'new' ending.

    But that's just one perspective on the quality of Evangelion's TV ending. It's shouted so often by some very loud people that newbies to the series sometimes think it is some law or definite settled issue. So unfortunately a lot of fans who found the TV ending too bizarre or not filled with enough fanservice tell a lot of people to just not even bother with the last two episodes, which is a shame. I personally felt the TV ending was practically perfect, capturing entirely what the series was actually about - which is not giant robots, crazy religious imagery, and aliens, but the characters and their relationships (and on another more important level, our own relationship to the world and those around us). The TV ending does an excellent job dealing with this stuff. It's raw, it's brutally honest, it's even more experimental than the rest of the series is, and it doesn't give any clear answers (ie you have to figure it out for yourself what it exactly means). The films have some extremely entertaining scenes in them and some wonderful animation, but they are filled with an overabundance of things that were merely fun windowdressing in the series (like the religious imagery). IMO it's too focused on what the fans apparently wanted, partially at the expense of the creator's desires. It's almost like they confused the dessert/candy with what the real meal was. There is still some of this depth, but the ratio between candy/meal is far too slanted for the former. They also overexplain what exactly happens, which makes you lose some of that wonderful quality the series has in that the viewer questions their own values and perspective (though the film does have some of this too, I think it is a little too arty and pretentious for its own sake). I found the films to be admittedly enjoyable, but fairly weak/uneven by the standards of Evangelion (though the last few minutes are amazing). And it doesn't help that the US release of the last film has a killer translation error that can really confuse viewers...

    Further confusion comes from the fact that there are multiple versions of the films. AFAIK in the US there is only one version of each film released, but in Japan there were quite a few. That's probably why some people get the feeling there are three or even more endings. But there aren't really any major story changes in the different film versions. It's interesting to read about or watch after you have seen it all, but it's nothing to worry about until after you see the series and two films.

    And I am not happy with this news, largely because the Eva English dub is pretty bad (partially because the Japanese dub is so perfect). The inevitable censorship will suck as well. Please, just buy/rent/download the DVDs...

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  10. Re:Oh ya but they better leave the music in tact! by chota · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think you mean:

    Fryyy me to za muun
    An ret me pray amonda staasu.
    Ret me see what spling is rike
    On Jupitaa an Maazu.

    (I won't bore you with the rest of my transcription of the ending song.)

  11. Re:EvanWTFgelion by OverlordQ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh so now Date is better then Quality? I'll be sure to forward that to Hollywood.

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  12. Re:Understanding Evangelion by diamondsw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You're missing the point.

    No, there is no one "meaning" to Evangelion. That's a very American view (and a recent one) that things should have a straightforward, obvious meaning that applies the same to everyone.

    You'll get as much out of Eva as you put in to it. What Eva does is it brings up a lot of questions on the nature of the individual and relationships, and not a lot of answers. To bring this to the fore, we have a cast of characters who are all damaged in some way in how they interact with others, and there is a lot that you do have to figure out for yourself and what it means to you personally (which is why you'll see a million different interpretations).

    It's not about the "giant robots". It's not even about the religious imagery, or the end of the world - those are all merely the setting; they are not the plot.

    Evangelion was created by the same team (including Hideki Anno) who then created "His and Her Circumstances", what is on the surface a high-school romance. In reality, the two series share the same themes and goal - they both focus on individuals, relationships, masks, identity, and how we reach out beyond ourselves, and let others in.

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