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Columbine Student on VG Violence

Sophia wrote in to mention some discussion of Video Game Violence on 1up.com this week. Brooks Brown had the experience of attending Columbine High School around the time of the now infamous shooting incident. Via his blog, Brown goes into a detailed discussion of Why Violence in Gaming is a Good Thing. From the article: "GTA isn't about fucking hookers or killing cops. It's a story of a guy who got screwed trying to get back on top. It is, by nature, a story game. Postal 2 may let you kill anyone you want in bloody and disgusting ways - but that's not what it is about either. It is, by nature, a tech demo in the abilities of programmers and AI. it is WE - the gamers - who change what the game is about and determine what happens. It is the person playing who determines what the game contains." Jane Pinckard has a quick reaction to his post. More commentary on this subject is available via John Davison's Blog, who met Brown at a taping of a news program which was ostensibly to be about gaming in general. Instead he was ambushed about violence in games and ended up walking out.

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  1. *cough cough* Derrida *cough cough* by biryokumaru · · Score: 5, Funny
    Please! No more post modernism!

    *weeps*

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    1. Re:*cough cough* Derrida *cough cough* by daniil · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'll see your Derrida and raise you a Baudrillard!

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  2. My review of Grand Theft Auto by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, it's basically a game where you can drive around an ambulance and take people to the hospital, drive around a fire truck and put out fires, drive around a police car and catch criminals or drive a taxi and take people places. Of course, there's much more you can do, but I'm not into all that violent stuff.

    1. Re:My review of Grand Theft Auto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      GTA Andreas also lets you drive business women to their appointments and protect them from dangerous individuals. It's really quite heart warming.

  3. Re:Postal 2 was about AI? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    The real danger is with racing games. Try racing an Audi S4 around in Project Gotham all day, then hopping into a real S4 to go to the grocery store. Dangerous stuff.

    Think of how I felt after I played Katamari Damacy...

  4. Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    GTA isn't about fucking hookers or killing cops.

    Then I think there's something wrong in my version...

  5. Straight from the source. by Shky · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is all well and good, but I think it misses a crucial point - this.

    Right...?

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  6. Pac-Man by JCY2K · · Score: 2, Funny

    Video games don't influence children; otherwise the 80s would have been full of teens sitting in the dark listening to techno and popping pills...

  7. Re:Postal 2 was about AI? by yotto · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not to "me too!" a comment, but Just yesterday I was driving by a parking lot and in the far corner your standard "crotch rocket" motorcycle was sitting all on its own. I couldn't help but think it was placed there specifically because it would trigger a mini-game.

    Luckily, I live in reality and was amused by that thought, not inexoribly drawn into it like a moth to a flame.

  8. He's 100% right by tansey · · Score: 3, Funny

    I mean we all remember those famous Technical Demos:

    - Mortal Kombat characters executing fatalities to demonstrate advancments in sprite scripting technology.

    - Serious Sam's technical display of hugely explorable levels and efficient creation (and removal) of hundreds of agents simultaneously.

    - The Playboy series of games which push the boundaries of graphics and strive for photorealism.

    - Duke Nukem feeding strippers money and getting them to take their clothes off displayed revolutionary bounce-physics.

  9. Re:Postal 2 was about AI? by FriedTurkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know driving around in cool cars in videogames and then getting into my piece of shit car makes me so angry I want to shoot people too.

  10. Re:Violence in VideoGames by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny
    and I've never had the urge to actually take out a gun and shoot someone.

    What if you found a scroll of genocide?

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  11. Re:Which reminds me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    He turned to Puppy Theft . I'm not kidding you.

  12. Re:tetris anyone by spir0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    tetris is about blocks being created and it is the player's job to destroy them all. if you let them procreate, you lose.

    death is everywhere.

    if you let it.

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  13. Re:tetris anyone by Sparr0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...
    - "Yes, we're looking for a game that doesn't have any violence."
    "Easy enough. I've got lots of games without violence. Anything in particular you want?"
    - "The game can't have any violence at all."
    "Ok."
    - "I mean nothing."
    "Well, Crash Team racing doesn't have any violence in it."
    - "Yes it does. You can hit each other's cars."
    "Uhm.. ok...so, no conflict at all you mean?"
    - "Yes."
    "Hmm... Here, try Bust A Move. It's a very good game with no conflict."
    - "We've tried it before. It's too violent."
    "...Too violent? There isn't any violence in the game at all."
    - "You shoot things and monsters fall out."
    "Ok...here, try Intelligent Cube. Great game, no monsters and no shooting."
    - "You can fall off the edge and the moving blocks can kill the character. Too violent."
    "Uh...ok...uhm...well, there are a lot of racing games without violence."
    - "Racing games have competition. The game can't have any competition." ...

    An excerpt from The Acts of Gord

  14. Re:Violent Games Mask the Real Problem by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny
    As I drive to my brokerage to check on the high return of my mutual funds and other investments

    You had me until this sentence:

    1. Nobody willingly visits their broker. It's like dropping in on an Amway salesman and asking "what's new?"
    2. Ever hear of this thing called the intarweb that you're using right now that also has realtime portfolio management?
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  15. Re:Violent Games Mask the Real Problem by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny
    Oh, and:

    3. 1999 called and wants its "high return of mutual funds" back. Actually, so do I.

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  16. I don't know about you, but... by MonkeyOfRage · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ever since Space Invaders, I can't stop running from house to house firing straight up into the air.