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Most Secure Digital Audio Player?

PaleGreen asks: "What's the most secure portable Digital Audio Player (DAP) in terms of a true 'one-way' file copy mechanism? I want to be sure a curious coworker can't leech my portable's treasures while I'm out to lunch (or even worse, if I lose it). I'm aware of 'iPod backup' solutions that seem to get around Apple's protection. Are the Windows Media 'Plays For Sure' devices more secure in this area? Are there portables that support a hardware password (similar to a BlackBerry, where the unit resets to factory defaults after ten bad password attempts)?"

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  1. Simple Solution by samael · · Score: 3, Informative

    Take.

    It.

    With.

    You.

    1. Re:Simple Solution by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Take it with you" is not a solution. At best it's a good practice. Seriously, if that's all it took, then pickpockets would be out of a job.

      As for why he'd want to do that, it's simple: Lots of music players offer recording capabilities. Some people actually put those to good use. I used to have a PocketPC. One of the things I did with it was I recorded voice notes for story ideas. Those are ideas I don't want others getting ahold of. I can see using music players with record capabilities being used in the same way. For some people, this really is an interesting question.

      Honestly guys, I don't know why these knee-jerk 'answers' are so 'informative'.

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  2. We're speechless. by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think we're all mortified by thinking about what you've got on your audio player that you're so worried about.

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    1. Re:We're speechless. by LoRdTAW · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yanni and Michael Bolton.

  3. Huh? by jhoger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Your co-worker leeching files impacts you in what way?

    Why do you care?

    I'd be more concerned about the physical security of my player.

  4. Ummm who cares by yasth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    MS's plays for sure is very secure, well except for the simple expedient of an audio to audio cable and pressing record on something with a line in.

    Really though who cares? Actual theft with you having good intentions (i.e. no handing them the player and pointing them to the "backup" software) means you are not liable. It would be like leaving a cd at your desk and someone snatching it and copying it. If you catch them at it, and want to be a b*tch report them to the riaa.

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  5. Let me get this straight... by biglig2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... you're asking Slashdot to recommend which audio player has the best DRM?

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  6. Well... by Curmudgeonlyoldbloke · · Score: 2, Funny

    Obviously you'd want to copy everything off it onto your PC when you walk away from your desk, encrypt it with something like Gnupg, delete the contents, put the encrypted versions of the files down, walk away, walk back, transfer the encrypted versions back to your PC, unencrypt, delete the encrpyted versions and transfer the unencrypted versions back.

    Or (seeing as you mentioned it), you could try the Blackberry route - it's strongly rumoured (if not already confirmed) that some newer versions will play audio. It may not exactly be the most cost effective digital music player, but at least it's secure, right?

    (OK, I know I shouldn't feed the trolls - but when the ARTICLES are trolls, what then?)

  7. How to copy files off an iPod by Hanashi · · Score: 4, Informative
    You say the backup solutions "seem to" get around file copying restrictions? There aren't any restrictions. Simply connect your iPod to your PC (I'm assuming Windows since I don't have a Mac handy).

    When it mounts the iPod as a new drive, open that folder in explorer and then select Tools -> Folder Options from the menu bar. Click the View tab and select "Show hidden files and folders", then click OK.

    Now you should see an additional folder on your iPod drive called iPod_Control. Open it up and find your music files in a set of subdirectories under the iPod_Control/Music/FXX folders, where XX is a bunch of two digit numbers.

    The file names may or may not make much sense, but never fear. If you have ID3 tags in the files, you can just copy the files from the iPod onto your hard drive, then import them into a jukebox that understands ID3, and they'll be perfectly readable again.

    Don't use this to pirate music. I only mention it because I thought it was odd that every iPod owner on Slashdot didn't know about it yet.

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    1. Re:How to copy files off an iPod by sithsasquatch · · Score: 2, Informative

      The only "copy restrictions" apply to sending music from your ipod to someone else's iTunes. But if you enable it as a disk, your "restrictions" disappear.

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  8. Re:[meta-discussion] by teksno · · Score: 3, Insightful

    do mod points work for stories, or just comments???

    cause this guy needs to be placed around -1*10^99^99

  9. WOM? by Bastian · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe you're looking for one of the many devices that utilize write-only memory?

  10. Dear Slashdot... by Monte · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have a good number of books in my bookcase at work, and I don't want some busybody no-goodnik pinko commie rat bastard co-worker to waltz in and photocopy one of my treasured tomes - or worse yet, steal the volume outright! Some people even have the nerve to turn to the last part of the book first and spoil the ending for themselves, if you can believe that. Obviously, I want to prevent this from happening.

    What bookcases have the best anti-personel features? Would the security of several bear traps near the bookcases be worth the possible civil liability? Does anyone know of a reliable, cheap source for claymore mines on the web?

    Signed,
    Worry R. Wart

  11. If you want security hassles... by phorest · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Just buy anything SONY. They are the worst for DRM nightmares.

    Incidentally, I want to form a SONY-haters club, any takers...any thoughts?

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    1. Re:If you want security hassles... by jrockway · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I will join. I don't even want to get started on how much I hate them, so I won't. Let's just say that every time I buy something of theirs I get royally burned. Every. Damn. Time. (Needless to say, I don't buy their shit anymore.)

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    2. Re:If you want security hassles... by thegrassyknowl · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Incidentally, I want to form a SONY-haters club, any takers...any thoughts?

      You can join mine... I started it back when cassette tapes were the next big piracy issue. My auto-reverse walkman just would not play the reverse side of any cassette without chewing it. Take out the cassette and turn it over and it played the back side fine.

      Sony had it back on no less than 10 occasions. Eventually the year ran out and the warranty was expired.. do you think I could get a refund? They wouldn't even fix it.

      I've voted with my wallet ever since.

      The moral of this really long story is that I HATE Sony too.

      Oh, and on the topic of music players that you can't extract anything from, why not get one of those encrypted USB memory sticks and plug it into your... computer. If your co-workers swipe it the most they'll get is garbage. If anyone with a clue swipes it.. well they might be able to figure it out, and if they can work out your encrypted USB memory then they can thwarte the anti-readback on and-old media player.

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  12. Social Engineering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sometimes, lowtech is the best option. I once faced a similar problem with nozy coworkers. My solution was to store a personal diary on my mp3 player. In it, I descibed in exacting detail the little things of the day, like the weather, or the nice flowers on the receptionst's desk, and of course how I would brutally kill each and every one of my coworkers.

    I found that keeping this diary improved not only my mood but the mood of everyone in the office. People started being so nice to me. For example, if I late on doughnut day and mention it to someone, they give me their doughnut. I didn't even have to ask for it. Whenever I ask someone to please be a little quiter, they immediately quiet down and give me such a nice smile. And when it's time to leave, they give me the elevator all to myself. Now that's love.

    Once in a while, I still ask a coworker if he's been snooping around my ipod. Everytime he emphatically denys it and gives me this wonderful speech about we're such good friends and swears that unlike some people he would never do that to me. And it's not just words to him; whenever he says it, he gets all choked up about it, and tears run down his face. He means it.

    I never imagined just how much a diary could change my life. Start a diary today, and let the love in.

    1. Re:Social Engineering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      Wait a minute.

      You started the diary before brutally killing your coworkers?

      Now I know where I went wrong. Thank you!