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Six Bomb Blasts Around Central London

M3rk1n_Muffl3y writes "There were six explosions around London this morning. Information is still emerging, but looks like there were bombs detonated on a bus near Russel Square and several others on the Underground around the City and King's Cross. It's been difficult to reach people on their mobiles."

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  1. Mobiles by Zouden · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The BBC is speculating that the reason it's been difficult to reach people on their mobiles is because the government switched the network off, in anticipation of phone-triggered bombs.
    This is apparently part of the government's planned response to this sort of situation (the bombs in Madrid were triggered by mobile phone).

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  2. Watch the Law by FrostedWheat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It will be interesting to see how the government reacts to this. I'm almost certain they will use this to push through laws like the ID cards and maybe even worse.

  3. Re:First Post by Lurker+McLurker · · Score: 5, Interesting
    "Extreme anti-globalisation people" couldn't pull this off. You need to be a rich capitalist like Osama Bin Laden to have access to the necessary resources. Preferably, you should also (like Bin Laden) have the backing of a Western power, or have had it in the past.

    Anarchists also aren't organised enough. Violence by these groups tends to be more along the lines of throwing bricks. Of course, only a tiny proportion of the anti-globalisation movement is violent.

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  4. A Note of Solidarity by tjstork · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I saw 9/11 on a giant screen. I was working next to a trade floor at
    the time. The company had installed a really large set of screens at
    the end of the floor to keep traders up to current events. Various
    financial news channels would be on at any given point in time, and on
    slow days, the occasional sporting event.

    Jeff, a new hire along with me, stopped by my desk. He said, you have
    to see this, a plane just hit the World Trade Center. So we went back
    to the floor and stared at dumb amazement at the big screen, and
    watched the whole sorry show. I remember talking at that time with
    other people. All of is new it was an act of war, but some of us
    realized that our country would never be the same again. We looked at
    other as the buildings collapsed, and said, "well, we are a police
    state now." Despite all the platitudes of life moving on as normal, we
    all knew in some way that our country as we knew it was gone.

    There were some rumours of planes also targetted buildings in
    Philadelphia, where my mother worked. There was of course no way to
    get in touch with anyone. All the phones were jammed and the main web
    sites were blocked because they were being pounded on so much. I
    managed to do as much work as I could, as if I could blot it out. They
    let us go early that day. Many of the traders had collegues in New
    York.

    When I came home that day my wife had found the largest American flag
    we had and hung it up. She had actually been rather opposed to hanging
    up American flags. One of those liberals that thought patriotism was
    tacky, she wrote in her then journal. "Today I know what it means to
    be American." And then, we turned the TV off and the radio off. I
    couldn't watch it any more. I didn't want to think about it. But
    later on that evening I had occasion to go the store and I turned on
    NPR for a quick update.

    There was the BBC, and with typical British class and elegance they
    dispatched with all the usual platitudes and did the simple thing.
    They conjured up an orchestra which played the Star Spangled Banner.
    And that time was the only time I actually cried at all over 9/11. And
    I will never forget that moment of solidarity with the British people,
    will never forget that in more than my lifetime, from World War II, the
    Cold War, and now in Iraq, the cause of freedom, freedom of the seas,
    freedom from tyranny, freedom of the press, and freedom of trade, has
    been a joint American and British project. For generations now, the
    United States has never had a better friend or more noble ally than the
    United Kingdom.

    I hope that casualties are few in London. I hope that the number of
    people that perished are small. I hope that the wounded will recover.
    I hope that your nation does not go as crazy as ours did. The world
    needs the voice of British reason to counter American romance. Today
    I'm going to go buy a Union Jack and hang it up on my house. Your
    former colonies are with you. We are all British today.

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  5. Re:Al Qaeda group claims responsibility by meringuoid · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Bear in mind that after any major incident a lot of different groups are going to claim the credit, in order to increase their own profile - kind of a malign game of 'I'm Spartacus!' Some group in Jordan claimed responsibility for the New York attacks in 2001 - then quickly retracted their claim, presumably when some higher-up in the group found out about it and realised what it had done to his life expectancy ;-)

    I'm still wondering whether it's some IRA faction, personally. These don't seem to have been really big bombs - we're seeing lots of wounded, not many dead. Jihadists tend to go for the big bodycount, while the Irish terrorists always preferred to cause disruption wherever possible. Although comparatively few are known dead - fewer than, say, Omagh, and so far nowhere near the bombings in Madrid or Bali - it has ruined all business in London today, and possibly tomorrow.

    One final puzzle: why didn't they do this yesterday? Bombing the Tube yesterday morning would surely have scuppered the Olympic bid...

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  6. I was on my way to work when it happened by Tim+C · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Thankfully, I was late, so I missed the worst of it. My train was held at one of the stations on the way in because of "power surges" in multiple locations. I finally made it to Fenchurch Street (just by the Tower of London) and, having heard that the District Line was suspended, set off about finding a bus.

    The stop that the signs directed me to was on a road that the police were cordoning off as I arrived. I saw several police cars and fire engines, and a group of dazed-looking people being escorted away from some buses, clutching bits of paper. (I'm assuming that the paper was for taking statements)

    Given that it was a reasonably nice day at the time, I decided to walk the rest of the way. On the journey (which took about an hour or so) I heard lots of sirens and helicopters, and saw quite a few police cars and fire engines (including one with "COMMAND UNIT" painted on the side). I also saw an unmarked car driven by someone not in uniform, tearing along with siren blaring and a stick-on light flashing. That gave me pause; the plain-clothes guys don't get called out for "power surges", even if they've caused a transformer or two to blow.

    Now, everything's pretty quiet. The 'phone networks are getting back to normal, although for a while it was hard to get through - it took me a couple of dozen tries to get through to my girlfriend and parents (who knew more about what was going on than I did, walking through central London), but nothing that you wouldn't expect from everyone calling everyone else (eg as they do on NYE).

    Apart from that, and the complete shut down of transport in central London (including the whole of hte Tube network), everything is more or less as it is any other day. The streets are a little quieter, and some shops are closed, but apart from that you could be forgiven for not realising that anything had happened. That won't be the case in the areas directly affected, but here in the West End, it's almost like any other day.

    The news is a different story, of course, and there are rumours and counter rumours flying around like crazy. Talk of people being shot by police, suicide bombers in Canary Wharf (lots of financial companies there), more bombs being found, uncomfirmed reports of it being a terrorist attack; it's hard to tell what's true and what isn't.

    (As I type this, I can hear more sirens out in the streets below)

    My heart goes out to those that were caught up in it, and the people who have lost loved ones or who simply can't contact them to find out.

  7. Re:More details by Eric+S.+Smith · · Score: 4, Interesting
    If it is AQ, I'm scared that all of the heavy anti-terrorist legislation appears to have had no effect ...

    Does your fear arise from an unmet expectation that the legislation would prevent terrorism, or from an anticipation of even worse measures now that a continuing vulnerability has been demonstrated?

  8. Re:7 bombs by tigerd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hmm with all these cameras in london, it should be no problem at all to find the terrorist that did this. Lets see if the promised security is for real...

  9. Re:Not just about Iraq by Laser+Lou · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So if someone in the Army is walking in a street, its ok to shoot him because he/she is a valid military target?

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  10. Re:Jeez... by vidarh · · Score: 4, Interesting
    You completely fail to understand terorism. Why do you think the terrorists want the UK to yield? They gain much more if the UK does NOT yield, but reacts in yet another knee-jerk "lets go to war and kill some more terrorists" reaction Bush-style, or enacts yet more limitations on civil rights. THAT is the kind of reactions that they feed on to help recruit more people.

    Their ultimate goal may be to get their opponents to yield, however the very fact that these are terrorist organisations, and not well established armies, mean that they are weak. You resort to terrorism when you're too few to lead guerilla warfare, and guerilla warfare when you are too weak for open conflict. You do it to spread fear and get your enemy to do stupid things, not to "win".

    I'm not British, but I live in London and was on the train to Victoria this morning when I heard about the explosions. I did write both about my trip (which was fairly uneventful) and some thoughts on terrorism on my blog. Hopefully one day politicians will get a clue, and maybe the terorrist dorks will get a harder time recruiting more people.

  11. Re:go read history by LKM · · Score: 4, Interesting
    He had a reason, but it's irrational and insane. He's religious fundamentalist, and the motivations of such people are incomprehensible to reasonable, logical thinkers. He thinks Christians and Jews are abominations and must be exterminated. He hates the West, all of it, regardless of whether or not a given subsection of it is involved in Iraq or not. America is the "Big Satan" and Israel is the "Little Satan" and anybody who isn't actively trying to destroy both nations is the enemy of Islam.

    That would be a very convenient explanation. It's quite unfortunate that it has no base in reality whatsoever. Bin Laden is no stupid religious fundamentalist who wants to kill all infidels. That's the rhetorics he often uses in his videos to get his followers rallied up, but his actual goal is to get the western countries out of arabic countries. This whole thing started with the presence of U.S. military bases in Saudi Arabia. Bin Laden wanted them out in order to increase his own influence, and to that effect, he started his campaign against the Americans.

    This is about power, not religion.

  12. Police request preservation of digital comms by Elphin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've just received the following email via our datacenter, never seen one of these before, requesting preservation of digital communications, logs etc.... here's the message in full.

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    A coordinated terrorist act requires communication between the parties involved. It is therefore likely that the perpretrators behind the multiple explosions in central London today have used telecommunications systems in the planning and execution of their act. The investigation into this crime will take many months and it is likely that the siginificance of specific communications data and current stored content will not become immediately apparent and there is a real risk that important evidence could be lost.

    On behalf of all of the agencies involved in the investigation of this incident, I am requesting that, to the extent of what is reasonably practicable that you preserve all existing communications data and content of stored communications (email, SMS, voicemail) held by you in order that it is available to the investigation of this crime.

    Data is exempt from the 1st Data Protection Principle if it is processed for the purpose of prevention and detection of crime or the apprehension and prosecution of offenders. (Section 29 (1) Data Protection Act 1998.)

    This request relates only to the preservation of data and content which is currently stored. Any access requests to such data will be made through the appropriate legal process.

    I will keep this matter under constant review and will notify you immediately of any change of circumstances. I will in any case update you on a monthly basis as to the on-going requirement for the preserved data.

    Below I have included a list of the of data types that this request addresses. This list is not exclusive and you are asked to preserve any data that can be used to identify communications that have taken place and links to the parties.

    * Content of email servers
    * Email server logs
    * Radius or other IP address to user resolution logs
    * Pager, SMS and MMS Messages currently on the network's platform
    * Content of voicemail platforms
    * Call data records (includes mobile, fixed line, international gateways & VoIP)
    * Subscriber records

    Any questions in relation to this request should be addressed in the first instance by email to xxxx@xxxx.org. The National Hi-Tech Crime Unit is an operational unit of the National Crime Squad of England and Wales.

    Signed

    Jim Gamble
    Deputy Director General
    National Crime Squad
    Chair ACPO Data Communications Group