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Bank E-Communications Aid During London Bombings

davidwr writes "Reuters and eWeek report on how the British Banks' emergency chatroom and web site helped them cope with Thursday's terrorist bombing." From the article: "The Bank of England, the Treasury and the Financial Services Authority switched on a secure section of their Financial Sector Continuity Web site to talk to major banks in the City of London's financial hub about how they were coping. A Bank of England spokeswoman said this was the first time the secure site had been used in an actual crisis situation since its creation in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center in New York."

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  1. Obligatory Blame America Thread by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This will be the place to post the usual how America is really to blame for the London attacks, and that whatever wrongs the USA has committed somehow justifies or excuses the deliberate murder of innocent civilians.

    I know that's how this discussion will go, so might as well start it here.

  2. Don't give the news outlets the satisfaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Those vulture bastard 'news' organizations like CNN and MSNBC are nothing better than ambulance chasers.

    The reason these events are so terrifying is due to the GIANT headline reporting of outfits like these. They have newsrooms full of cheering vampires who prey on the fears of a cowering public.

    A smoking building full of bodies is nothing more than a huge upsurge in profit for these devils.

    It wouldn't be terrorism without the spin they put on these events.

  3. Secret chatroom... by thrill12 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...well, it ain't that "secret" anymore now is it ?

    In all honesty, I think the real power of such a channel only comes to light in a contingency that directly hits regular communication lines like telephone etc. In that case, an extra "hidden" link could actually have value.
    Now, it was primarily a human tragedy where communication was not directly at risk.
    Maybe they should have kept it a secret a while longer.

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    1. Re:Secret chatroom... by Dwonis · · Score: 2, Insightful
      On the other side, it must suck if you are hurt and need help, and your cell phone does not work. No, not at the site of the bombing because the police will be there, but if you are somewhere else, and have a heart attack or get hit by a car.

      With GSM, emergency calls are treated specially (for example, you don't need a SIM to make emergency calls. well, at least not in Canada/USA), so it's possible that emergency calls still worked, while regular calls were blocked.

  4. Loop of insanity by shanen · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Okay, it's not directly on the banking network, but this is the background of the situation as it exists now. We have an increasingly complicated and fragile infrastructure, and it's all bandaids.

    Basically, based on 9/11, BushCo has demanded and received great power. They claimed they needed these new powers to fight "the terrorists". Instead, they mostly ignored the terrorists and applied the military parts of the power to Iraq, and applied the political power to increasing their control of America.

    The results? BushCo has greatly increased their political power in America, so that part is a "success", as they see it. Most of the world is increasingly polarized against America. UBL is about where he was before, though Al Qaeda is now estimated to have grown from a few hundred hard-core fanatics on 9/11 (of 2001) to tens of thousands of fanatics. In addition, BushCo has created a vast pool of revenge seekers and other potential recruits. Al Qaeda can apparently attack at will, and we just have to be greatful for trivialities, such as no chemical weapons--this time.

    Iraq was in bad shape under Saddam, but now it is a total disaster zone. If BushCo left tomorrow it would be a total loss, with thousands of lives and billions of dollars gone. BushCo claims those losses now have to be considered an investment, and we have to keep pouring more good lives and good money down the the drain. And meanwhile, their own companies continue to make enormous profits on the entire fiasco. In particular, their oil interests make increasing profits as the price of oil skyrockets. Their military companies profit on new bombs. Their construction companies will profit again on cleaning up Iraq, assuming we ever get to that stage.

    Finally, to close the loop, much of that money is being piped to the Saudis and other Islamic extremists, who then leak some of it to Al Qaeda, thus helping them commit fresh atrocities such as the latest attacks in London, thus justifying more political power for BushCo.

    Excuse me, but the robust banking network is *NOT* important.

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    1. Re:Loop of insanity by Neoprofin · · Score: 1, Insightful

      They could launch dozens of terrorists attacks, but what would it accomplish?

      For one terrorist attack the U.S. has occupied two countries, spent billions on revamps and reorganization, detained thousands. If their were terrorist assaults ever weekend how long do you think it would take before every street corner had an armed guard and the middle east was a smouldering nuclear wasteland?

      Would that solve the problem? Probably not. One would almost hope that as another poster spoke, that the terrorist would realize at some point that bombing is counter productive.

  5. Good for them by ottffssent · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "In the wake of 9/11..." is all too often used to start a paragraph which boils down to "...government spent a ton of money doing absolutely nothing for security while simultaneously doing far more harm to a free and democratic way of life than the terrorists ever could."

    I'm pleased to see that at least in one case, someone actually gets it. You can't stop the terrorists. Random bad stuff happens in life, and the best thing for it is to be as prepared as you can. Communications is the single best way to spend money in preparation for insert-bad-stuff-here. Be it terrorism, natural disaster, industrial accident, or what have you, better communications saves lives. As has been said many times by everyone whose job doesn't involve spending billions of dollars, more money should not be spent on trying to prevent disasters, it should be spent on ways to clean up after them. Billions in airport screening is a complete waste of money because it just forces someone to bomb a mall or movie theater instead - billions in police training, EMT and EMS training, hospitals and clinics, etc. is money that will reap rewards no matter what happens next.

  6. If only black and white were the only colours... by sveiki_neliels · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The United States is having its problems. The new "power" president Bush has obtained boils down (at least domestically) to little more than a fiscal stranglehold on the country, a limitation on citizen's rights, and xenophobic-type immigration and travel policies for foreigners.

    Political moves like this are inherently unstable, especially in a country like the United States. Bush's government is fiscally irresponsible. However, the true power in the country (the corporations) will lose faith in a Republican Presidency as soon as this government's economic plans start falling apart. Once that happens, he won't stand much of a chance.

    Limitations on citizen's rights can only go so far. We've all heard the secret rumours of the CIA and FBI and whomever having all this information on the American people. Things like the Patriot Act and such only mean that these organizations can do more of what they ALREADY DO out in the open. Once citizen's rights are more impinged to the point that the average Joe can no longer buy his smokes and beer as easy as usual, the next election will more likely than not prove that a US government can do anything they want, as long as they don't upset the delicate retail balance on which its people are addicted.

    As for immigration, North America, left to its own devices is a dwindling population of high-priced workers. As soon as employers have to start paying more when there are fewer immigrants, and consumers have to pay more as a result, that too will have to change.

    As for Iraq, only the narrow-minded see it in black and white. Yes, the United States Army has done a bang-up job (bang in the negative sense), but ask yourself this: do you think the average Shiite or Kurd was panting to keep Saddam Hussein in power? He was a murderous, power-hungry dictator that raped an entire country of resources and a decent quality of life. Yes, Bush went in for the wrong reasons. Yes, it is going badly. I can't reconcile my views on the situation in Iraq, but I know doing nothing is against everything I think the West should stand for.

    The attractiveness of terrorism against the West is more likely rooted in the ease in which people are recruited. Education and dogma of the Western Businessman as the enemy of the Arab, and a serious poverty problem make poor Arabs who are being kept down by their own governments and international embargoes caused by these nations problematic take on international "diplomacy" easier targets for recruitment as suicide bombers. Why not, if the leaders of these terrorists groups can promise that your family will be cared for (when you cannot)? Deal with THESE problems and we may yet get somewhere.

    When you blame it all on Bush, really you're just saying "Well, it's not my fault!". Wake up. It is all our faults.

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  7. please stop by koogydelbbog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    can we drop the funny comments (and, for that matter, anything about people worrying about money). people died. it was only yesterday.

    thanks.

    andy
    london

    1. Re:please stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      David Ickes view http://www.davidicke.com/icke/headlines.php. Includes yet more 9/11 numbers? from the above web site:

      "I hear on the BBC that the first Bomb went off in London at 11 mins to 9. Familiar numbers eh? I have just seen [police] Commissioner Ian Blair on TV with a picture of Big Ben behind him. He was being interviewed in the studio and not outside with [a live] Big Ben in the picture"

      "Guess what time it said on the clock face of Big Ben? Nine minutes past 11. Familiar numbers? Already there have been references to 9/11 by government spokespersons and by people interviewed on TV. Expect links to terrorism and a big push for ID cards"

      I don't know if any of that is true. But it really is convenient for them that this happened even if it isn't a ritual killing inside job (which I think it was). This diverts attention away from the Downing St memo, The Karl Rove CIA operative leak scandel, and other media attention to the Bush and Blair administration mishaps. It takes away attention from environment, and giving aid to humans in need. Back to fear and war as a top priority. I also heard the UK might withdraw troops from Iraq, I suppose that won't be necessary now. That seemingly unpopular national ID card initiative may suddenly move forward after they've given things a little time to pass.

      I'm sorry about your tragedy there in London. Keep asking questions, keep investigating. Don't just float along with the media directed tide of unproven assumptions. Follow the money and ask who stands to gain from the actions taken.

    2. Re:please stop by JeTmAn81 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Do you really need someone to explain the difference between murder and accidental death to you?

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    3. Re:please stop by krbvroc1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      For some laughter is the best medicine. For others humor is a coping mechanism. There was even humor after 9/11.

  8. Re:Things seemed to work ok by t_allardyce · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The web might have redundancies, but most ISPs don't have the capacity to handle all their customers at once, and most websites will get slashdotted in minutes.

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  9. Re:Things seemed to work ok by krbvroc1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't see the relevance here. The terrorists, whoever they are, attacked mass transit. Most people are not using their 'net' connection during their commute. Most people on the street are going to attempt to use a cell phone or payphone to call, not VOIP.