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Genetic Research In The Heart of Amish Country

FrenchyinOntario writes "Insular, inbred communities like the Ashkenazi Jews and Indian tribes can be a bonanza of genetic information for researchers, and the Amish & Mennonite communities in the United States are proving to be fertile ground as well for scientists who want to better understand the nature of genetic diseases and how rare illnesses occur more frequently in such closed-off communities. The Amish, famous for their renunciation of a lot of technology, are embracing a lab that has been built in the centre of their community because their faith teaches them to "help their fellow man", recognizing that helping scientists better understand the genetic causes of diabetes, mental retardation, and some of the rarer diseases in their families, helps themselves as well as others. For a better understanding of the Amish and their approach to technology, Wired magazine ran an excellent story a few years back better illustrating why they are not just mindless kneejerk technophobes."

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  1. Re:A question. by cide1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've always always heard it as ah-mish, never the other way.

    Or you can just say "Pennsylvania Dutch" and be done with it... *smirk


    Not all Pennsylvania Dutch are Amish though. I come from a Pennsylvania Dutch family, and while my great grandparents spoke low-german, and were farmers, my great-grandfather also worked in a commercial dairy for an hourly wage. My great-grandparents was buried in a lutheran church, in York, PA. Amish have much stricter(simpler?) religious convictions, but on the outside, I can see how people confuse the two. My grandfather joined the Navy out of high school, and then went to college, as did most of the males from his community (WWII), and took a government job. He was a member of a lutheran church, and later an alderman of a methodist church for many years. If you met him on the street, you would have no idea, other than he is very careful about how he spends money (not cheap, but thrifty), tends to shun anything more than the basics, and values education over pretty much anything else.

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  2. Re:Somewhat informed? by NanoGradStudent · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Amish (and I believe to a lesser extent, Mennonites in general) believe that you have to make a conscious and informed decision to be baptised and formally join their faith, so Rumspringa lets them have a taste of life on the outside. The majority usually decide to stay, but UPN had a reality TV show Amish in the City and for some reason, the four Amish that were featured all decided to leave the community. Probably had something to do with the fact that they put them up with a bunch of "English" in a big mansion, and got them doing various activities together.

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  3. Don't forget the Mennonites by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 4, Informative

    The main thing to remember about true Amish is that they're an orthodox branch of the Anabaptist church.

    The Mennonites are a non-orthodox denomination; however, to see them on the street together you'd have no idea which is the Amish and which is the Mennonite. Mennonites still hold onto the traditions except that they accept "modern" lifestyles - they own cars, TVs, computers, and so forth, but still honor the traditional dress and religious beliefs. My wife works with a Mennonite at a local grocer, and he's always in his straw hat and overalls whenever he works. It was actually a shock to see him in a "regular" suit and tie at the company Christmas party last year.

    I live about 45 minutes from Strasburg and go through that area often. There are Mennonite churches all over the place, even as far out as Carlisle and as far north as Selinsgrove (not that those names mean anything to people who are not from the area).

    Basically, if they own a buggy, they're Amish. If they own a car, they're Mennonite. :) But if they're standing side by side on a sidewalk you'd never be able to tell who is who.

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  4. Re:It's drumroll please... by rynthetyn · · Score: 4, Informative

    Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou. I remember visiting my grandparents in Pennsylvania, my grandmother would get really upset with tourists who would talk about wanting to go see the AIM-ISH like they were a tourist attraction.

    More entirely on topic, I think it's a good thing that the Amish evaluate technology and its impact on community instead of chasing after every new thing without thinking. There are both negative and positive consequences to technology, but in our culture we are driven only to look at the positive. The case can be made that the Amish methods of farming are much more environmentally friendly, there's less environmental impact farming with horses than tractors, and there have been particularly rainy seasons where the Amish were able to plant their crops much earlier than farmers using tractors because horses don't sink in the mud nearly as much as a tractor. But, that doesn't mean that even in farming, they don't use technology, they're able to get much higher crop yield today than a hundred years ago because they're willing to use high tech fertilizers (the case can be made that they get the best of both worlds that way). It makes perfect sense that they'll allow genetic research, they see how diseases are affecting them, and research on understanding those diseases will benefit their communities and everyone else.

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  5. Re:Somewhat informed? by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 3, Informative

    Again, their society doesn't include things like illegal drug use (and hence, no drug-related crime.)

    Unfortunately, not quite true. And while the perps may be idiosyncrasies, note who their customers were.

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  6. "That's What It Means to Be Amish" by daigu · · Score: 4, Informative

    I remember reading a story - I believe it appeared in the Plain Reader - that talked about the Amish approach to technology:

    A bus load of tourists were visiting Amish country. At some point in their journey, someone on the tour asked an Amish elder what it means to be Amish.

    The elder started explaining about Jesus Christ - but before he got too far, he was stopped. "We know all about that, but what does it mean to be Amish?" He stopped, and thought for a moment.

    He then asked everyone on the tour, "How many of you have television sets?" Every hand went up. Then, "How many of you believe that television has a negative impact on your relationships with your family, your community and with God?" Most hands went up. He then asked, "Believing that television has a negative impact on your relationships, how many of you would give up television?" No hands went up.

    "That's what it means to be Amish."

  7. Amish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I find the Amish the most interesting people in the US.

    The main misconception is the Amish hate technology. This is not true. They just do not want technology to control them.

    I'll give an example, if a vehicle can go faster than a horse it is banned. Why is this? Because people can then travel great distances and migrate away. Why is this a problem? Its a problem because it breaks up families. You know what, looking at my family that is precisely what happened! This is the main intention to take the rubber off the wheels of wagons ... it makes them go slower.

    The Amish do not like electricity because it comes from the grid. In other words, it makes people dependent on others. So, you can go into a store and the ceiling fan will be run from air pressure. Yep, there is a gas pump pumping air to make the fan go around. Little tubes all over the ceiling. The pump might be running vegetable oil. Or they can store fuel ... the point is they are in control.

    What is interesting is I saw some Amish using power tools. Yet, the tools were plugged into a portable generator and not the grid.

    If there is a telephone it is outside the home. Why is that? Because strangers are not allowed inside the home. You have to get permission to use the phone and go outside. You see, technology is not in control again. Having a t.v. in the house is like inviting in a child abuser...and it is!

    In the 60s, the US government tried to take over Amish schools and force their children to public schools. They fought that and won. See, more control...there was another school system in place before the feds and the 60s school take overs.

    Its very nostalgic to see a horse drawn cart harvesting a field of corn. No gas used and totally independent.

    They still have 5-6 children per family. So, in another century they will probably be a majority of the population in their state. Not dependent on immigrants to flip burgers. Again they are in control.

    What's great is $60 oil, electric grid going out, router down ... it just does not matter. They are totally independent. This flies in the face with todays elite trying to make everyone 'interdependent'. I find it fascinating.