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Back and Forth Between Qwerty and Dvorak?

jamesh asks: "I'm interested in switching over to an alternate keyboard layout, probably Dvorak, before I begin to suffer any effects of RSI. I'm almost 30 and have been typing since I was about 8, and these days spend most of my workday in front of a computer, typing away at a keyboard. I've searched the Internet and most people's comments are that within a few months they were up to or faster than their previous speed, with better accuracy. I'm mostly a programmer, but I do spend time at client sites and do need to spend time at various users computers to have a look at whatever hole they've dug themselves into, and so I will need to switch between QWERTY and Dvorak mode fairly frequently. What others have found when switching back and forth, as required? Can you mentally just flip back between them, or do you 'lose' your QWERTY skills and become 'hunt & peck' when faced with the old keyboard layout?"

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  1. Dvorak by iamdrscience · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Learning another typing layout doesn't make you lose your ability to type on a Qwerty keyboard anymore than learning German might make you forget how to speak English.

    That said, you might not be quite as good a Qwerty typer as you were originally, just like how learning a new language occasionally introduces a little bit of confusion in your mind. For the most part you're just as proficient though and potentially better off because of what knowing something new (language or keyboard layout).

  2. Re:QWERTY not QWERY by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The sad thing is that this stuff actually matters. If in a few months I want to search for this story then looking for titles containing the word 'QWERTY' is going to fail. By all means, let's tolerate bad spelling because geeks seem incapable of better, but not in titles that may ultimately end up in a thousand catalogs around the world.

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  3. Re:Go for it! by millette · · Score: 4, Insightful

    QWERTY, you insensitive clod !

  4. Layout isn't important. by steelfood · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For the most part, layout is really a small factor in the scheme of things. Putting the more common letters in the home position tends to reduce finger travel distance, but that just means any problems would happen later. On the other hand, something like having good posture could reduce or eliminate the chances of the problem entirely.

    What I find interesting is that pianists tend to not have RSI or carpal tunnel, even though their repertoire might primarily be Chopin. They do get arthritis, though that's usually from age and a matter of nutrition. But for a pianist, posture is extremely important in producing the right sounds. Wrist and forearm strength is necessary for dynamics. As well, having excellent control of their strength is very important. Of all these things, I think both the posture, and the way power generation is spread throughout the arm accounts for why pianists aren't as prone to RSI.

    Power isn't really something we are in control of, as no one really wants their keyboard to be the length of an upright, or even close. I doubt anyone would like their keyboards to type like a piano either. The largest discouragement would be the necessari investment in developing agility and strength in their hands just to type up a 2-page essay.

    As I mentioned before, posture is something we are fully in control of. And for those of us who are physically lazy (read: those of us who sit on our asses all day :) ), the importance of constant posture reminderss should not be understated. But for the forgetful, there are always special keyboards that force the wrist and fingers into their respective natural positions. As a bonus, they also sometimes place control keys (alt, shift, space, etc.) in more natural positions, though by no means would such a small change require learning a whole new keyboard layout.

    Of course, if the special keyboards are too expensive, just type using only one or two fingers. That moves most of the stress to the forearms though perhaps at the cost of speed.

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  5. Re:Forget Dvorak by Krach42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually most of this stuff about keyboard typing *causing* RSI is pure bunk also.

    There's been research that shows that people who use typing a lot in their lives do not develop RSI in any greater percentage than in those who do not.

    Just if you *do* have RSI, the keyboards agrivate it a lot.

    If this guy has been typing since he was 8, and he's 30 now, he'll likely not develop RSI.

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