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Apple to Adopt KDE4's KDOM and KSVG2?

Anonymous Coward writes "According to Eric Seidel, Apple WebCore developer, Safari may soon have 'experimental SVG support.' He ported KDE's new DOM architecture KDOM as well as their Scaleable Vector Graphics (SVG) implementation KSVG2 and render tree library KCanvas to WebCore. A new section devoted to SVG is also up on the WebCore site. Does this all mean that SVG will now go mainstream, finally?"

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  1. Without Adobe's support? by BadMrMojo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Now that Adobe has bought out Macromedia (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/18/13552 33&tid=98), I'd be surprised to see them helping push SVG any more.

    As much as I'd love to be proven wrong, I think SVG headed for historical footnote status in the very near future.

  2. Re:It's Apple. It's not mainstream. by node+3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You're being foolish--the question at hand is whether something must be supported natively by MS to become a standard.

    This is clearly and obviously not true.

    If SVG is different, and that it *does* need such support, it's up to you to explain why.

    Think harder homer. When PDF hit the world, there was no CSS, no HTML, nothing in fact, except for proprietary page layout software and word processors.

    You are absolutely wrong, and clearly have a limited understanding of the subject. You're thinking of PostScript.

    As we already know, there are plugins for SVG for almost every browser on every platform yet it is decidedly not mainstream yet.

    But something has changed--Apple is going to support SVG. If this comes to pass, there will be more SVG content on the web. It's possible (but not certain) that the sites that add SVG content will be enough to get Windows users to click the "get plugin" button. Also, I believe, Firefox has, or will have, native support for SVG built-in as well.

    SVG needs IE adoption for success as does every web standard.

    Like PDF, Real, QuickTime, Java, etc?

    To say otherwise is to support a rather uncommon view of the word "mainstream".

    You're the one with the flawed definition. Mainstream means it's in the common public realm. Firefox *is* mainstream, for example. Mainstream does not mean everyone uses it, or even that a majority of the populace uses it. Rap, for example, is mainstream, but that doesn't mean everyone listens to it. DVD's and CD's were mainstream long before the majority of content was sold in those formats.

    In the end, you might be right that Apple adopting SVG won't be enough to take SVG mainstream, but there are just far too many examples of web technologies that have become mainstream without direct support in IE to take your argument seriously.