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Apple to Adopt KDE4's KDOM and KSVG2?
Anonymous Coward writes "According to Eric Seidel, Apple WebCore developer, Safari may soon have 'experimental SVG support.' He ported KDE's new DOM architecture KDOM as well as their Scaleable Vector Graphics (SVG) implementation KSVG2 and render tree library KCanvas to WebCore. A new section devoted to SVG is also up on the WebCore site. Does this all mean that SVG will now go mainstream, finally?"
On thefacebook.com, "visualize my friends" creates an svg file that shows all the connections between your friends, and Safari displays it just fine.
The news is ofcourse great. The quality
of the news item is not. The correct KDOM
link is:
http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdenonbeta/kdom/
Also Eric is *not* part of the Safari team,
though he works with them often.
Cheers,
Rob.
No. Because it's Apple. If it's on Microsoft, then it's mainstream.
The question wasn't "is SVG now mainstream", but "will SVG go mainstream". Technologies adopted by Apple tend to go mainstream, so it's a valid question, and one you didn't address.
Your response isn't very insightful, either.
SVG already *is* "on Microsoft". And on Apple, too. You just have to install a plug-in (just like Java and Real and other "mainstream" features).
Mainstream doesn't mean "on Microsoft", it just means it's common enough--that it's reached some threshold of popularity. SVG is "on Microsoft" right now, but it's not mainstream. If Mac users get good SVG support in Safari and web sites start to offer SVG content in greater numbers, SVG will be mainstream. Windows users will, as usual, just have to click the "get plugin" button--they're used to it.
Now that Apple is going to include native SVG support with Safari (assuming this comes to pass), the odds of SVG going mainstream really have increased tremendously.
If you have the Adobe SVG plugin it does. But not by itself. Try ctrl-clicking on the SVG graphic and select "About SVG viewer", voilá!
Apple adding native support would mean that there would be a userbase with SVG support by default, as with good PNG transparency support and CSS text shadows where Apple has paved the way.
Seems like these days you just can't ask people to download appropriate plugins anymore. Oh how I miss the roarin' nineties...
There's no 'on' position on the Slacker switch!
Java, Real, QuickTime, flash, etc, are all "mainstream" and none are built into MSIE.
MS did their own Java. It was bundled since IE4, got kicked with WinXP, was bundled again with WinXP-SP1 and was kicked out again with WinXP-SP1a.
MS once licensed the RealPlayer. IIRC it was during Win95 or Win98.
MS licensed QT (the file format). WMP can still play old (pre-Sorenson codec) QT movies.
MS have licensed Flash. It's bundled with every Windows release since Win98 or something.
Not all of these products are still bundled with Windows/IE, but they were in the past. It surely helped their adoption.
If MS doesn't support it natively, it is not mainstream.
So I wonder when PDF is going mainstream.
Dude, you aren't worth arguing with because you think you are right regardless of how little supports your view.
Since one can't really speak slowly on the web in a non-annoying way, I'll instead suggest you read this slowly.
*Your* view is that web standards (in this case, SVG) require native, built-in support in IE to become mainstream. *My* view is that your view is wrong.
It only takes one example to show your view wrong, but I can think of many. PDF, Java, Real and QuickTime come to mind immediately.
This is unassailable. You are wrong.
Perhaps SVG will require IE support for some reason. But just saying, "for some reason" is not enough, just like saying, "Period." is not enough. You actually need to think of a logical, and compelling reason. You have provided none.