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Conquering the LaGrange Points?

3laws_safe writes "For decades, people have dreamed about building colonies at the five LaGrange points, intersections in space where gravitational and centrifugal forces balance out to provide orbital stability. But now, the official magazine of the U.S. Space Command advocates seizing control of the LaGrange points before other nations do it. From the article: 'We face the need to control the chokepoints of the solar system.' Arthur C. Clarke, who depicted a LaGrange colony in his classic 1961 novel A Fall of Moondust, is not very happy about this. He argues we should not 'export national rivalries beyond the atmosphere.' Is he right? Or should we prepare for the fact that such rivalries are inevitable, even in space?"

11 of 911 comments (clear)

  1. DUPE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    can somebody say dupe?

  2. Re:Attention, US Americans: by suitepotato · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    It's stupid shit like this that makes other nations despise you.

    Yeah, I can see that. That explains why so many people in those other nations are risking death to move here and become citizens. Confirms the theory that humans are all masochists.

    I think most American citizens are fine people. It's time for you citizens to wrest control back from the evil scum who run your country.

    Despite some propaganda to the contrary, insurance salesmen and lawyers do not run this country. We have benign scum running our country, thank you very much.

    If you do not, the inevitable outcome will be further degradation of your personal safety. You can not afford to let this happen.

    That sounded like the stereotypical veiled threat of a terrorist. Please stand by where you are and await personnel from the Department of Homeland Security and their escort by the 82nd Airborne to come and speak with you.

    Okay, here's your choice Earth. The USA or North Korea getting the high ground? Well, when you put it that way...

    For those of you positing the United Nations, consider they have a track record of efficiency at their chartered mission about like the USPS for perfect on-time unmangled catalog deliveries. The cost of a ticket to an orbital colony would have a 6000% surcharge on it to redistribute money to third world nations busy butchering their populations in ethnic and religious warfare but getting away with it because they somehow got weaseled onto one council or another and the secretary general happened to like their politics over the western world and...

    I don't think so.

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  3. Re:Attention, US Americans: by Night+Goat · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Fine, convince your country to kick back and not gain control of the strategic points in space. One less contender. If you have such a problem with the United States, do me a favor and boycott our products. And get the fuck off the Internet.

  4. Re:France by rsynnott · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    France doesn't have an independant space capability.

    And the Americans will have to wait till they find terrorists somewhere near the leGrange points, like Saturn or Andromeda, before they can invade ;)

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  5. Re:Be prepared by ThreeE · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    the Russians are the ONLY nation with a proven track record of building and long term manning a space station.

    Simply FUD. I could just as easily say that the US is the ONLY nation with a proven track record of operating outside of LEO. The parent post is just another rant by a bitter old man somewhere.

  6. Re:George Orwell massively disagrees with you by SparafucileMan · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    yes well orwell was a faggot.

  7. Re:France by The+Lynxpro · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    "Look at it this way, it can start out as an irrelevant US military base and then flourish commercially, or France can get there first, claim it in the name of the EU, and establish a massive bureaucracy with a 60% tax on everything passing through. I'd rather have a quasi-Free Market gov't grab it first."

    At least with an American space colony, the folks there will actually shower. A French space colony would smell of body odor.

    If I had a choice between bathing (in this regard, showering) with soap or enjoying fine cheese, I'll pick personal hygiene every time.

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  8. Re:Yes by bobcat7677 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I vote we promote user (843940) to the rank of Captain. Thus making him Captain Obvious. All in favor?

  9. Re:France by S.O.B. · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    France's space capability is as part of the ESA and by definition not independent. It is dependent on the other memebers of the ESA.

    I guess that makes you an Anonymous Moron.

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  10. Re:Do you think they were good? by ThreeE · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    It sounds like you are from India. Here's the deal -- I don't care about most of this. Bottom line is that Bush has kept the homeland free of terrorism for the past 4 years or so. What happens in Smellistan is just noise.

  11. Re:yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    How did this get modded "Funny"? He is serious. Just any other racist-republican-white-Christians who thinks they are above everything and can kill women and children and say its a good thing.

    To us that don't live in USA, USA is frankly the overtly evil. Torture (what good has that come out of that? Terrorists are STILL going at it and Osama is STILL at large), bombing innocent people (why do you think the terrorist still going at it?), destroying democracies and think that you are some übermensch like the Nazis.
    If USA controls them then USA would kill everyone else for them and then piss on any democratic vote that would say that control should belong to all. USA is not some supreme democratic nation. Its not even among the 10 best nations in the world when it comes to democracy. You are taught that it is the number one but its not. Its not even so democratic that groups that monitors democratic elections thinks its worth monitoring because its so corrupt (exit polls are reliable and they said Kerry won in Ohio but Bush won. Go figure what happened). Your military are a bunch of super Nazis that kills for fun and that have no trouble killing their own. Hell no for USA to control these. Then were in for a new tyranny. A tyranny control by USA and by whom ever can funnel enough money into Washington DC.