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How to Keep Your Computer Cool

ThinSkin writes "ExtremeTech is featuring a how-to article on keeping your computer cool by adopting an efficient airflow strategy for your PC case. The article goes into detail on what types of fans are optimal for your computer and your needs, where you should place them, and how to make your own fan mounts. From the article: 'With an efficient cooling strategy, there's no reason a case should ever grow so warm. Good airflow is critical to keeping your PC operating and extending the life of the components. Keep the air flowing!'"

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  1. Stirling Refrigerators by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Informative

    And for the serious overclockers, we have low powered cryogenics coming down the pipeline. It turns out that Intel is considering the possibility of using Pulse Tube Coolers for the next generation of thermal management. (Hey Intel, you think that over 100 watts might be just a *smidge* much for a processor?)

    While there's something to be said for this step being rather extreme, it might lead to the development of cryogenic computers. These futuristic processors could utilize super-conducting transistors and wires to improve performance and eliminate waste heat.

    Kind of a weird thought, but there you have it. :-)

    Personally, I'd like to see Stirling or Pulse Tube Coolers replacing existing phase-change air conditioners. In the name of "energy efficiency", you can't buy a decent apartment AC and are forced to deal with putting one in every room. Stirling engines could provide better cooling for less energy! Now if we could just get the buggers mass produced to bring down the cost...

    1. Re:Stirling Refrigerators by vandil · · Score: 2, Funny

      Cryogenic computers? Like so that we can put our computers into deep freeze until they've cured this blue screen I keep running in to?

    2. Re:Stirling Refrigerators by Penguin+Programmer · · Score: 4, Funny

      But, really, all of those fan and water and air-conditioning based cooling options are just really good ways to make your office or computer area really friggin' loud.
      It's not that I want to spend $1500 Canadian on my next computer case, but I'm going to seriously consider it. Just imagine, no fans at all to make my room noisy, and if there's a nuclear attack, I can hide behind it for safety!

    3. Re:Stirling Refrigerators by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      LOL

      That was a quote from the article, not a reply to your post on cryrogenics. I just wanted to stick my 2c in at the top where ppl actually read it.

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  2. Filtration optional??? by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 3, Insightful
    From TFA:
    Fan filtration is optional; dust may get in your system anyway
    I'd hardly consider filtration optional...especially on any system deemed important enough to build a custom fan solution for. Dust shortens the life of not only your board components, but those fans as well.
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    1. Re:Filtration optional??? by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Um...no. Here's the context of my previous quote...from TFA:
      Fan filtration is optional; dust may get in your system anyway, so instead of that, I vacuum out my system a couple times a year.
      It's clear the author was referring to long-term fan filtration here, not filtration during the construction phase of the case mod.
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  3. Maybe... by Virak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you didn't overclock your computer to hell (in more ways than one) you wouldn't need so much cooling.

    1. Re:Maybe... by Fizzog · · Score: 4, Informative

      I just built a new PC with an Athlon64 3700+, an XFX 6800gt, and a 74gig Raptor. These things would tend to add up to a few degrees.

      But I put it into a cheap ($50) Cooler Master Centurion case with an 80mm front fan and a 120mm rear fan.

      CPU runs at 29c idle, 36c max
      Case runs at 33c idle, 39c max
      GPU runs at 60c idle, 65c max (those buggers run hot!)

      The point is that you don't need anything particularly fancy to keep a decent spec system cool. Just do a little homework. The Cooler Master case was excellent value.

    2. Re:Maybe... by PakProtector · · Score: 5, Funny

      Amen to GPUs being damn hot. I once made the mistake of doubting the stick-on thermometer I applied to my highly overclocked ATI 9600XT, and I got a nasty, nasty burn for my trouble.

      On the other hand, having the ATI logo branded into your right index finger is a social accomplishment at certain parties.

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    3. Re:Maybe... by snorklewacker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      One of the fans has given up. The side of the case isn't on, the processor is roasting (50C), the hard disks are roasting and constantly give errors

      That's why. Unless you're pointing a box fan straight at the motherboard, put the bloody side panel back on.

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    4. Re:Maybe... by bdcrazy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Open cases can in fact cause higher temperatures due to uneven or even stagnant air flow. Closing the case and having good air flow through the case would be much better, unless you intend on connecting a box fan to the open side of your case...

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  4. How to Keep Your Computer Cool by slapout · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't run Windows.

    Oh, you meant the other kind of cool. Nevermind.

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    1. Re:How to Keep Your Computer Cool by SnowCrashed · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Interestingly enough, my PC's temperature LCD's have always shown Linux not only to be cooler, but to run cooler then Windows...

  5. Not news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is any of this news to anyone? Everything in this article is obvious and anybody who has opened a computer case before knows the crap contained in this 6-page article.

    Why is it six pages? Why, of course, so that the GIGANTIC ads are displayed that many times. Take a look at the URL pointed to by the link that is the author's name... no surprise

  6. really? wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    In other news: sky still blue.

    I should blow cool air into my computer and draw hot air out of it? Are you sure? There must be some other way!

    There's 5 minutes I'll never see again.

  7. adopting an efficient airflow strategy? by fxer · · Score: 2, Funny

    keeping your computer cool by adopting an efficient airflow strategy

    They seem to have not gotten the weasel terms memo.

  8. How to Keep Your Computer Cool? by MasterB(G)ates · · Score: 4, Funny

    Pair of sun glasses, a dark case, a divx rip of Pulp Fiction, Ubuntu and a seemingly infinite supply of of p0rn.

    Now that is cool...

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  9. Re:Better than any number of fans... by Donniedarkness · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, they say your computer is much better off with its case closed. Airflow is actually quite important.

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  10. Re:Better than any number of fans... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just leave the case open.

    That may not be as good of an idea as you think. Cases todays are designed like wind-tunnels with the air moving from the front to the back. As the air passes over areas, it draws away the heat and is exhausted out the back.

    When the case is off the PC, the wind tunnel effect is lost and most of the air is left standing. As a result, your ability to cool your system is actually reduced. This can lead to overheating and ultimately, failure.

    If you value your computer, you'll get a nice large case with properly installed fans.

  11. The Air must Flow by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 4, Funny

    Air is essential for the Guild navigators to pilot their bitTorrents from one node to another.

    If the Air does not Flow, bitTorrents will be impacted.

    The Air must Flow!

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    oh, and besides, those dust bunnies can get quite unruly at times, rabid almost, vorpal in their natures, if you will.

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  12. I have a friend who works for Intel by Mr.+Maestro · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes, I have a friend or two..
    I told him I was a little concerned with my p4 running around 60C and hee tells me that when they test out the chips, they test them at like 100C.
    Im not suggesting to run your CPU at 100C, but I don't think 60-70 is a problem.
    There is, however, a segment of modders who will spend tons of money because they heard that brand x of thermal grease will lower the CPU temp .000000001 degree.

  13. Decent temperatures by isorox · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How hot is too hot? I've built a new P4-2.4GHz box arround a Shuttle Zen (quieter than a laptop), the processor runs arorund 65 degrees C, the case arround 50. How hot is dangerous?

    1. Re:Decent temperatures by ctr2sprt · · Score: 3, Informative

      That is near the danger level. Typical for a desktop system is 25-35C at idle, going up to 50-55C during peak use. Most thermal cutoffs (extreme downclocking, automatic shutdown) activate at or near 75C. I would be worried, with your system, that hot days and heavy use would cause lockups or the aforementioned throttling. Even if that doesn't happen, consistent operation at those temperatures is going to markedly reduce the life expectancy of your hardware.

    2. Re:Decent temperatures by khellendros1984 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's not "dangerous" per se, except that hot components have a shorter lifetime. Most motherboards will shut off automatically at temperatures deemed "unsafe" (imminent heat-failure of components). I don't remember the statistics....but I'm sure you can find them.

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  14. Re:Better than any number of fans... by kryptx · · Score: 2, Funny

    Right. If you want to show off the innards of your computer, get case windows. And lights, if necessary. Removing the panel altogether will probably cause more problems than it solves.

    In other words, never remove Windows from your computer.

    er, wait. What site is this again?

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  15. Re:Better than any number of fans... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I spent plenty of time with thermistors on the ambient air around components and even on the components themselves. Open case was always 5-10 deg C cooler.

    If that's happening, I'd start by checking the case design. Many users have very dense cases with large bundles of wires inside. All these wires can obstruct the airflow and prevent the system from properly cooling. This is one of the reasons why I always purchase as large of a case as I possibly can. Full size towers are pretty hard to come by these days, but good Mid-Towers make for a nice compromise.

    I don't know if it's a sign of a good case or not, but the last one I chose had an array of holes for dissapating extra heat while maintaining the airflow. You'd be surprised how cold my case is, despite the fact that it's in 5 year old stock condition.

  16. What's always troubled me... by SnowCrashed · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What's always troubled me about my system's cooling is that the temperature LCD's show a temperature quite different from motherboard monitor... My LCD's show around 55 degrees celsius under a full load, where as motherboard monitor sometimes shows as high as 70 degrees celsius. I don't know which one I should trust. The system is a Monarch Hornet Pro, so I expect it to run a bit toasty because of the form factor, but 50 sounds kind of low for AMD Athlon XP 2500+ (Barton) with such little cooling and space fpr air to circulate, yet 70 seems pretty warm.

  17. Making fans cat-proof by expro · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For me, one of the most important aspects of the design is making it so that the two cats in our house cannot block the fans, who for some reason love to lay up against the fans if they are accessible (such as where there are two fans on the side) or otherwise interfere or they can push other things off the rack to make them accessible.

    They have been the cause of much hardware failure if there is any way they can stretch or squeeze into an opening that has a fan, often after I believed that the configuration now was catproof after reacting to a previous incident.

  18. 1U cooling by flatface · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When it comes to rackmountable servers, I know that you need to get specialized cooling... When I got my 1U case, I put the system in (AXP 2400+), got a 1U fan and some silver heatsink compound for it, and tried it out, yet it overheats like mad.

    It works completely fine with the top of the case off, but I'm probably missing some info someone more experienced would know. Of course, it may be either a design issue with the case or maybe the AXP just runs too hot for something like a 1U. Does anyone here have some tips for cooling systems like this? If necessary, I can provide details when I get home.

  19. One word: Galaxy Fan. err... by TheCamper · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The last computer I built (and the one I am typing on) has a problem with heat, even though the inside of my case has good airflow. The problem is that this is a frankenstein box, and I was too cheap to buy good fans. So what I did was take both side panels off, and put a 20" Galaxy fan (about $11 at walmart) on the side, pumping air into the case. The air then flows out where the right side panel used to be.

    I get temps between 100 and 120 fahrenheit, depending on whether I'm playing a 3D accelerated game or not.

    Recently, due to a very dusty nightmare (I spend hours cleaning the dust out) I now have an air-conditioner filter duct taped to the front of the galaxy fan. I change it every few months.

  20. Re:The CPU is Cool, What about my ROOM?! by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2, Informative

    My comp runs fine, but what about my ROOM?! I have central air cond, but my bedroom is the only room in the house that is boiling hot in the summer. As a power user who doesn't like turning off his comp, that sucks :P

    Two things:

    1. Open your window - if you need a screen on it, then get one.

    2. Mount your PC so it's in the shade, with the exhaust going towards the window and the air intake coming from the shade.

    3. Buy a box fan for your window, or put one so it pushes the hot air out.

    4. Stop painting your room black when it faces south.

    5. Put a large flat tray of water right after the box fan, so that the air moving towards the computer is cooled by evaporation. Make sure this does not result in condensation on your computer after 30 minutes at say 3 pm (hottest time).

    6. If you can, buy louvred slats to cover your window and reflect out the sunlight but permit the airflow.

    7. If you're not at home, make sure your computer has sleep mode - and use it. Most heat is generated by your monitor, so buy an LCD flat screen monitor (lower energy usage, lower heat generation, quieter).

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  21. 1U cooling is a hard problem. by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 2, Informative

    You need a decent heatsink designed for 1U use, and a motherboard with 1U use in mind.
    Motherboard considerations: The chip socket should be as recessed as possible considering the board standoffs, no large capacitors, as many right-angled cable connectors as possible, etc.
    Also, the chip sockets have to be oriented so they are not obstructed by board components (such as filled RAM slots).
    The heatsink has to be full of fins oriented front-to-back. Then you need to install an assload of 60mm fans, and some plastic or carboard airflow guides/hoods to force that air into and out of the CPU heatsink while bypassing everything else. A few of the remaining fans that don't funnel into the CPU cooling "tunnel" will be cooling the power supply on one side, and a few more for general MB/chipset cooling on the other.
    You will absolutely need fans in the front and back, as close to the front and rear ventilation holes of the case as possible.

    Also helpful are HSFs that are horizontally oriented designed for 1U mounting to various socket types... but they are rare.

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  22. Re:Remember, it's just a heat pump... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A heat pipe and a large radiator does passively via convenction what the stirling engine does forcefully for the extra 9W.

    Not so. A heat pipe is passive because it merely equalizes the temperature. A Stirling engine can continue pumping heat far below the ambient temperature. As I said, right into cryogenics range.

    The overall cooling effect is still limited by the heat transfer ability of the hot side, which is always some kind of radiator.

    'Tis true. But the hot side can easily be enhanced with fancier metals, and larger surface areas. Basically, you could use the entire side of the computer case to cool your centimeter square microprocessor.

  23. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot by Cervantes · · Score: 3, Funny

    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot ....

    Seriously, WTF dude? It takes 2 pages to describe where you should mount your fan? We need another how-to on how to cut a fuckin hole in your case? "Have some fans in the front and some more in the back"... well, THERE'S a fuckin gem! Christ, I never would have thought of that!! I thought I should go out and buy 20 fuckin 200mm fans and duct-tape them all in a GIANT FUCKIN STACK right over my CPU, creating a giant VORTEX OF DOOM sticking out the side of my case, and THEN I would vent that GIANT VORTEX OF DOOM back INTO the front of my case, to make sure I made appropriate use of my airflow, and THEN to make sure I didn't have any leaks I'd duct-tape EVERY FUCKIN HOLE in my case shut, including those wussy holes on the back, they're not for anything, right? And THEN, when I have my GIANT VORTEX OF DOOM running at FULL BLAST, with my tower jitterbugging off the edge of my desk due to the MASSIVE VIBRATIONS, and my cats are running for their lives lest they be SUCKED IN to the one dime-sized hole I left open on the front of my case (for my wires to run for my most awesome LCD panel dude!), and THEN, I would have the GREATEST COOLING RIG EVAR!!!! Mwahahaha!!!

    But now, thanks to this in-depth, insightful article, I now know that, if I want to cool my case, I have to put FUCKING FANS ON MY CASE... and if I want a fan where there isn't a hole, I can either CHANGE MY FUCKING MIND, or CUT A FUCKING HOLE.

    HOLY SHIT DUDE, I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT.

    Thanks you Slashdot. I feel my intelligence being leeched out by the alien overlord editors as we speak. Your grand plan for DUMBING DOWN THE FUCKING WORLD is working great. Good job. I am a l33t h4ck3r now. Feer me, for I know the power of the FAN!!!

    Please let me know when I can cast my vote for Kodos. Anything that queer slimy bastard can do to stop this story from being duped next week will make me very very happy.

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