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How to Build a 17-ft Wind Turbine

agentfive writes "The people over at Treehugger have found an amazing little article on how to build a 17ft - 3kW+ output Wind Turbine. Apparently this is the latest project of OtherPower.com and the site has a variety of other engergy saving/producing projects including a Homebrew Maytag Gas Battery charger."

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  1. Beautiful! by 0110011001110101 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'll take 2 please, mounted side by side, in opposite directions, my current window fan just isn't cuttin the mustard...

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  2. Slashdot is brought to you by Sears Craftsman by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    DIY stories so far today:
    Homebuilt 19" Mini-ITX Server Rack
    The Floating Powerbook
    A Practical Guide to DIY LCD Projectors
    How to Build a 17-ft Wind Turbine

    And it's only 2:45pm EST.
    Did Bob Vila donate a large sum of money to Slashdot or something?

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  3. Re:huh? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Informative

    and what use might a windtunnel in my apartment be? It's not like I'm designing fighter-jets or the new Ford here.

    Wind Turbine, not Wind Tunnel. You can stick it on your roof and run a cable to your computer. Poor man's power, as it were.

    Don't feel too bad, though. I misread the headline the first time as well. :-)

  4. 3 KW....pfffft by charnov · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, all I want to know is how many birds it'll kill...we have a real starling problem where I live.

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  5. Links by dwight0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I like some of the sites they link to. Some useful stuff. Like how to make a rocket out of a match.
    http://www.matchrockets.com/
    Before internet, I once payed $2 out of the back of a comic book to learn that.

  6. Perfect! by mogrify · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've been looking for something like this. Now I just need a death ray to use on my homeowner's association and I'll be good to go.

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  7. apparently they need another wind turbine by Ubergrendle · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... to power their websites.

    slashdot effect in... er... effect.

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  8. Bad link by kitzilla · · Score: 4, Informative

    Bad link in the article text. It's here.

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  9. Otherpower.com Rules! by Coocha · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've been following the work of the Otherpower.com folks for a while now. They're damn good DIY engineers. Not only are their wind turbines quite nice, but my interest was also piqued by their use of single-cylinder Lister engines. Coupled with a biodiesel recipe, it looks like they can run their entire shop for 8 hours on a single gallon of carbon-neutral gas.

    One of my lifelong goals is to live simply, on a large plot of undeveloped land somewhere. I'm glad there are people like the Otherpower folks who are paving the way as far as alternative energy creation, and being considerate enough to document their work as they go.

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  10. I submitted this by WormholeFiend · · Score: 4, Informative

    with a more accurate headline.

    The website doesnt really show YOU how to build one.

    Rather, it shows you photos of the various steps taken by someone else to build one.

    Sure, you could probably look at the photos and read the descriptions and use your brain to fill in the missing details and build one yourself, but there would be additional work/calculations needed.

    It's still a pretty frickin cool project though.

  11. Wind Power by Dracolytch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've never really gotten an answer to this question:

    What are the implications or potential problems from removing energy from Earth's weather systems? Is the energy we're removing negligible enough to be ignored? Could it potentially change weather patterns by blocking/slowing wind?

    Do we have any information about changes in weather from other man-made things such as cities? I've heard beltways can cause enough heat to slow/redirect some weather. (I know that birds of prey use updrafts caused by hot highways to help them gain altitude using less energy)

    Any reliable sources for this kind of information, or are all sides biased?

    ~D

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    1. Re:Wind Power by glenmark · · Score: 4, Informative
      What are the implications or potential problems from removing energy from Earth's weather systems? Is the energy we're removing negligible enough to be ignored? Could it potentially change weather patterns by blocking/slowing wind?
      It should have no more effect than a tree does, and in windy areas where wind power is a viable source (my old stomping grounds in West Texas spring to mind), having windbreaks is generally a good thing in terms of reducing erosion.

      Of course, there has been a lot of chatter in the media lately about birds getting killed by windmill farms. Wildlife impact is a definite consideration in the design and placement of the things...
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    2. Re:Wind Power by smooth+wombat · · Score: 4, Informative
      To help provide some insight into your questions you could start with this BBC link which talks about microclimates.

      CNN has an article which talks about the same phenomenon.

      This link has not only a discussion of microclimates but pictures and graphs to to illustrate the effect.

      If you really want to numb your mind you could read this research paper which goes into a whole bunch of details relating to microclimates.

      The above should get you started. I didn't provide the proverbial link to a Wiki article since there are enough of other sources to provide the same information.

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    3. Re:Wind Power by glenmark · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Huh? I think there's a big difference between an inert blob that the air mostly just flows around (with some turbulence and loss of energy), and a windmill carefully impedance matched to the wind to extract the maximum possible energy from it.
      I think you may be underestimating how much energy transfer takes place when wind strikes a tree. Of course it will vary wildly depending upon the species of tree, as well as its size and age, but it takes quite a bit of energy to get all of those branches swaying. Just try pushing a large branch around on a calm day and keep it going. See how long it takes you to get tired. Then extrapolate that effort to all of the branches on the tree...
      Also, it's not at all clear to me that changing weather patterns is a good thing globally just because it helps locally.
      I don't disagree. Predicting the impact of manmade structures is a non-trivial feat. Just take a look at the plethora of journal articles studying the impact of suburban sprawl on temperatures with its huge expanses of concrete and asphalt. I'm simply arguing that the impact of a windmill on wind patterns would be no greater than that of a tree. In fact, I would expect that trees should have a greater impact due to the cooling effects they provice.

      Of course, these are all simply educated guesses on my part, as I am not a climate researcher (my science background is primarily in solid state physics). I could easily be mistaken.
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  12. Full article mirror by winkydink · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here

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  13. Ezz Empossible!! by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 5, Interesting
    making your own generator with magnets and wire is just plain crazy. Designing and building an efficient generator is WAY beyond anybody's homebrew ability. You need to know electromagnetics, have a source of silicon steel laminations, the ability to stamp them out to 0.010" precision, the ability to wind interleaved 6-phase coils, and much more.


    The only wattage mentioned is "36 watts" from turning it by hand, and using not a WATTMETER, but a voltmeter. Voltmeters are notoriously inaccurate at measuring "wattage", especally of weird waveforms you're likely to get from a homebrew generator. Also if thye were turning it by hand as hard as they could, the output should have been around 250 watts, assuming an average efficiency generator. So if we use these figures, it looks like their homebrew generator is only about 12% efficient.


    This is not a great example of good DIY-ing.

    1. Re:Ezz Empossible!! by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 4, Informative
      Hmmm, still doesnt smell right... No mention of a wattmeter. A large magnetic gap. No closed magnetic path. No design equations. It's really hard to hit all the right sweet spots when winging it.

      Plus it's really easy to be fooled when charging batteries-- the voltage may measure 48 volts, and the amps might measure 50, but that doesnt make 2400 watts. Batteries draw current only at the top of each cycle, so there's never that many amps and volts around at the same time. Your typical Radio-Shack meter is going to indicate hundreds of percent too hig-- a common stumbling-block for experimenters.

      A true RMS-reading wattmeter is likely to show much less power. Sorry to be a spoil-sport.

  14. Re:Not exactly friendly by evilpenguin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't know about your part of the world, but the limits in my county are that the tower must be short enough that if it fell it would land inside your property lines. I have 2 acres, the narrow part of which is about 350 ft. so I can have (in theory) a 125 ft. tower (although IIRC the FAA gets to intervene above a certain height -- you know -- the red "don't fly into me lights").

    As for noise, I don't know about this homebrew thing, but there is a commercial windmill about 10 miles from my house in minnesota. It is 250 ft high with a rotor span of 150 ft. It produces an annual average of 1.2 million kWhr (enough to power about 200 average homes). You can drive right up to it, which I did the other day. I had to turn of my radio and my carn engine to hear it AT ALL. It made a soft "whoof whoof" sound that was audible when I was right underneath it, but could not be heard from 1 block away.

  15. Re:PhotoVoltaic Roof Shingles by Rei · · Score: 4, Interesting

    By the way, here's an idea that I had (it could be completely unrealistic, but I'd be interested in knowing what others thing).

    Solar water heating isn't rare, and sometimes home heating with solar-heated water is done. However, any excess heated water during the summer (especially from a home-heated system) simply goes to waste.

    Backtrack to the 1600s. A "cold drink" craze swept through major cities in Europe. The method of chilling drinks was quite simple: they added saltpeter to a water bath (an endothermic reaction), and cycled enclosed drinks through the sub-zero degree saltwater. When the saltwater had warmed, they would evaporate out the (at the time, quite valuable) saltpeter in evaporation tanks.

    Concept: Use the wasted solar water heat to help evaporate out a warm salt solution by raising it to near boiling. Warm, concentrated saltwater from a heat exchanger inside the home is piped through the solar heating ducts, raising it to boiling/near boiling. From there, it enters a chamber, possibly kept at slightly lower pressure by a low power fan, to encourage salt precipitation. Every few minutes, a scraper runs in the chamber to stir up the salt into the oversaturated solution, making a salt slurry. The evaporated water runs through an outside radiator, condensing and cooling to near ambient outside temperature. Both the condensed water and salt slurry recombine inside the house and run through the heat exchanger again.

    The obvious questions are:

    * Would it work at all?

    * Would the power requirements for circulating the water, running the scraper every few minutes, and potentially running a low power fan to maintain lower pressure be more efficient than running a compressor?

    * Would the energy savings, if present, justify the modifications to a conventional solar heating setup?

    I really don't know the answer to these. :)

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