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How Do You Locate That Access Point?

parp asks: "As an IT Manager I'm concerned about unauthorized Access Points being installed, or users who setup wireless computer to computer networks. How do you find the exact location of these devices? I've tried walking around the office with a laptop watching the signal, but the signal monitors that are included with most network drivers are very limited. The signal could be upstairs, downstairs or right around the corner, but I can't find it. Results of web searches I've done just tell you how to find a signal (wardrive), not the source. I'd be interested in any software or hardware device that can locate the device within a few feet."

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  1. Radio Direction Finding by toygeek · · Score: 3, Informative

    It seems to me that you'd need to build a VERY directional antenna, and then you could triangulate the position fairly easily, and it could get you in the right area. Hopefully on the right floor ;)

  2. loop antenna by chinakow · · Score: 4, Informative

    You would probably need to build a loop antenna, they are directional and as far as I know, do not have much gain, you would just need to spin the look to find the strongest signal and take a measurement from 2 different places, then you could just draw to lines on a decent site layout map and know within about 10 feet where the signal is, google for "radio fox hunt" or "loop antenna".

  3. Something to check out... by Mercury2k · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hey guys, a quick google revealed this:

    http://www.airespace.com/technology/technote_rffp_ pinpoints_location.php

    Thught you might be interested.

  4. netsnoop by John+Meacham · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just monitor the traffic to see who is actually using the link. you should be able to figure it out from their IP address or their browsing habits. Chances are it is whoever set up the link. You may have to use one of the many WEP crackers, but that shouldn't present a problem.

    If no one ever seems to be using it, it is possible you are picking up someones laptop with a built in 802 card that automatically enables without the user even knowing.

    --
    http://notanumber.net/
  5. Commercial Solutions by JackAsh · · Score: 4, Informative

    My company recently implemented a product called "WiFi Watchdog" from Newbury Networks (http://www.newburynetworks.com/). Damned nice product, and it has the capabilities you are looking for. The latest version of their software will give you a heat map as to where a device is likely to be overlaid on top of a map of your building.

    Other vendors selling a similar products include Airmagnet and AirDefense. Some of the bigger AP infrastructure guys such as Cisco even have some built in products to do similar things.

    The big advantage I found with NNI is that their product helps reduce false positives by identifying APs outside our building and labeling as such - so when a Sears truck drives by with a built in AP our alarm bells don't go off. Other neat things include a cool RADIUS service that "authorizes" connections based on location. Tied together with other authentication services that would make for a really really powerful solution for securing your wireless.

    Anyway, hope that helps find some good solutions for you.

    -Jack Ash

    PS: No, I am not an employee of NNI or anything of the sort, I'm just a guy who went through your exact problem last year and ended up finding this solution.

  6. Roguedetect from the OSU open source lab by imsmith · · Score: 3, Informative

    Oregon State University's Open Source lab has a tool specifically designed to find rogue wifi access point on univerisity networks, and it's available here: rogue detect

    1. Re:Roguedetect from the OSU open source lab by DShard · · Score: 3, Informative

      That hunts for DHCP servers. While it's real nice (especially knowing that you could have it log into a managed switch and disable a port), it's not really capable of finding wireless access points at all. you _could_ do something close to this by fingerprinting all the devices on the network and reporting the switch it's plugged into and which port. The downsides of that approach is you would be dependent on your fingerprinting applications database and a good plug to plug map of your network.

      In my experience, that map will never reflect reality and may cause many wild goose chases.