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Battlestar Galactica Resurrection Effort Described

MistGhost writes "A background story of the effort, both by Richard Hatch, and Ron Moore to resurrect Battlestar Galactica (NYT link so remember to lie on their free registration). Now that the show has started it's second season (at least here in the States) this article appears. " I sat down with the Tivo last night and really enjoyed the premiere. I think the SG-1 retooling as real potential too- that show has been stale for a long time.

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  1. Battlestar Ponderosa by Monte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Am I the only person on the planet who remembers the original Battlestar Galactica as being a steaming pile of crap? Aside from being a rather blatant attempt by Glen Larceny (who also brought us Tron^w Automan and American Werewolf^w Manimal), the plots were the utmost juvenile tripe.

    My theory is that you had to be about ten at the time to think BG was actually cool. Once you're past the nostalgia, does it really stand up? There was an awful lot of silliness involved. For example, the man who single handedly sold the humans out to the Cylons got what ammounted to kitchen duty. That'll teach him!

    While I haven't seen all of the new BG, what I have seen I've liked very much.

    And one thing I will say for Glen Larson: putting Erin Gray in spandex ("Buck Rogers") was, indeed, friggin' genius. Kudos for that.

    1. Re:Battlestar Ponderosa by PakProtector · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Star Trek: Enterprise died not because it couldn't compete against reality shows, but because there are far fewer Blind, Rabid Star Trek Fan-boys than there are Star Trek Fans, and the Fans will not tolerate the kind of abuses to a series that the Fan-boys will take, just so they can get another hit of their favorite crack, no matter how badly cut with filler it is.

      That is why Enterprise failed. It was a good idea, but horribly executed, like an axemen who hits the guy in the back instead of hard on the neck when he's on the block.

      In other words, Enterprise was a brutal massacre of Star Trek.

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  2. Most sci fi is stale right now by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sci fi has been stale for a long time. We're looking for the next big fix to kick it off. In the past we had "flying cars and silver panties for clothes in the year 2000". Now all we have is special effects and soaps in space.

    When the next big thing comes along we'll see sci fi pick up, but untill then people will keep trying and failing to make anything but Star trek Mark 12 or the latest "lets hop planets" type fodder.

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  3. Ron Moore is reason for show's success. by MtViewGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's face it folks.

    The BIGGEST reason why the new version of Battlestar Galactica is so good is that one of its creators (Ronald D. Moore) has strong experience doing excellent work with a sci-fi TV series. After all, some of very best episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation and Star Trek: Deep Space 9 was done with his assistance.

    That's why Enterprise sorely missed Moore's presence. If Ron Moore had been Enterprise Executive Producer I guarantee that we would be waiting with baited breath for the upcoming season, that's to be sure.

    In personally think years from now, the Ron Moore-created version of Battlestar Galactica will go down as one of the truly great sci-fi TV series of all time

  4. Bah to the SG-1 retooling by Dozix007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As an avid Stargate fan (yes, that is right, I could probably retell every episode, and yes... I am probably bias) I have to defend my favorite series from the little "stale" quip by CmdrTaco.

    The view of SG-1 as stale is ridiculous... I think most viewers don't find appeal with it because the show WAS not turning into the next generation MTV\OC\BS crap. I personally am a big fan of Season 5-8, unlike some others. I think the sarcastic humor and Sci-Fi mix is awsome. I am not a fan, however, of the attempted OCafication (a word, which means teeny-bopperafication) of Stargate with the perpetual appeasement of 16 year old pale boys who won't watch a show if it doesn't have some reference to sex every sixty-nine seconds.

    1. Re:Bah to the SG-1 retooling by sculder · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I have to agree. I think SG-1 is missing something now that I have seen the first ep of the 9th season (missing a lot, actually). One glaring omission is the theme music! I am all for change, but using that "theme" after having the beautiful theme it had for eight years is just lame.

      Since Richard Dean Anderson is pretty much leaving SG-1, Amanda Tapping off for a while having a baby, they had to bring in people to fill the gap. Beau Bridges doesn't do it for me. His brother Jeff would have been a better choice. However, I recognize that he may not want to do television. If Michael Shanks was not on board anymore, I would've probably skipped watching it until I knew at least Amanda was back. Chris Judge is spectacular, but if he were the only original character left, I can't justify watching it.

      If they wanted to pull the Farscape people to the SG-1 fold, they didn't do a great job with the first ep of SG-1 this season. Part of the appeal of Crichton's character was his cocky attitude. His character in SG-1 was just trying too damn hard to be liked. If the Farscape fans haven't already latched onto SG-1, they probably won't now with the characterization they have made for Ben Browder and Claudia Black. Claudia's (hopefully just recurring) character on SG-1 is just plain annoying - almost as bad as Jar Jar in ST:Ep I. Will ya stop it talking about making babies and having disappointing sex with Jackson? Is that a ploy to draw in the more raunchy crowd? We didn't need any of that to have a great show before, we don't need it now, thank you. BTW, I am not a prude - love the sexual power that Number Six holds over Baltar in BG.

      I think the job that Richard Dean Anderson did with the O'Neill character is a big reason that this show took off the way it did. I am aware that RDA wants to spend more time with his family and that is his decision, not the network's. However, without him, I am unsure how it will continue. I hope it doesn't turn out to be like the last season of the X-Files...almost a complete waste of time.

  5. Re:it's = it is by Dogtanian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > > the show has started it's second season

    > Sigh.

    An apostrophe *can* indicate possession in most cases; but note that "its [second season]" is an exception to the rule; i.e.

    "The man's car"
    "The boy's toy"
    "The Slashdotter's pr0n collection"
    "The Slashdotters' pr0n collections"
    "Its second season"

    Why?

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  6. Re:SG Atlantis and Bstar Galactica by FullCircle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I heard about Atlantis, I didn't understand how they could spin off so late in the game. Now it looks like an attempt to build a safety net for the franchise knowing that RDA was leaving the show.

    Finding a replacement for RDA had to be the worst job ever. He was the face and personality of the show. Bringing in Ben Browder seems like a good decision based on his acting personality. His cocky, slightly confused John Chriton character always reminded me of a younger, more tormented version of Jack from SG-1. Not having the rest of the cast immediately want to follow him was perfect. He will have to prove himself worthy of trust and friendship. As long as he is given a chance to grow his character on SG-1 like he did on Farscape and the SG-1 and Farscape fans can keep the shows separate I think it could work.

    Bringing in Claudia Black might break the mix. Her character is vastly different than her Farscape character (other than the leather, not that I'm complaining). She's more like a smarter version of the Chianna(sp?) character, without the ticks. She's a loner who will do anything (legal or not, uses her sex appeal) to get what she wants or needs as opposed to a outwardly stern, inwardly insecure moral soldier. It's hard to pass up excellent acting tallent when it comes along, especially for a scifi show. Making her a supporting character was a good idea. Possibly after Browder is accepted she could join the main cast to ween in the Farscape actors a little at a time. There are plenty of good actors left from Farscape so I wouldn't be suprised to see more of them pop up on Atlantis or SG-1 in the future just as they have borrowed actors from Star Trek from time to time.

    I have to say that the spin off idaea worked very well. Atlantis turned out different enough to allow unique story lines while still keeping the Stargate feel. The choice of actors was done well too. All of the primary cast are convincing, interesting and work well together. The male lead in Atlantis (sorry, don't know his name) could have been a viable replacement for RDA instead of Browder.

    Overall, I think that both strategies will be successful. Not an easy thing to pull off.

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  7. Re:The best thing about BG by Zak3056 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Also, how many vipers can they lose from week to week before they start having a major resource issue?

    This is actually taken into account by the show. If you read the blog/listen to the podcasts, they mention that there are n many ships available, and no replacements magically appear. At some point, they will have to find a way to replenish them.

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  8. Re:Where's Boxy... by 0111+1110 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The writers are generally geeks

    However that is not really the case for some of the writers for the new BSG. Several of them used to write for lawyer TV shows and that kind of thing. The writers for the season 2 premiere were previously story editors, not writers (except for the previous season). They are used for the 'military strategy' episodes. Maybe they have military experience or have done previous work with military oriented shows.

    Personally I hate this whole team-of-writers, different writer for every episode style of American TV writing. I think the British style of one writer per season makes for far better television. They should at least trim things down to the three best writers. A huge team of them is just ridiculous. How can you expect consistency that way? It's not so bad for planet-of-the-week episodes, but not a good strategy for a continuous story arc.

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  9. Plural by Granis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Could it be that most (all?) pronouns don't have a plural form with an ending s, so an apostrophe is not needed to distinguish from possessive and plural like it is for most nouns.

  10. Re:computer network on BSG? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Let's not forget the miniseries. We know that Galactica runs Baltar's programming on at least one of its computers but that it's not networked. They made a point to tell us that. We also know that Six got into the defense mainframes and presumably from there could have planted anything into all the systems Baltar had access to. It's not that the Cylons "think" in, as one poster suggested, or necessarily even hack in ... it's all there, an idle daemon, just waiting.

  11. Re:Two Points... by cybpunks3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    TV is a collaborative medium. When you tilt at windmills as an individual you usually don't get anywhere, even with a lot of fans behind you, since the insiders, the bean-counters, they decide what gets the green-light.

    Richard Hatch has to put food on the table. He's done a lot of lowly things, like adult education acting workshops. He currently does these cruises which I assume are like conventions on water where the fans get to poke at you for days on end. Some years back I read an interview with him where the author said he lives in a guesthouse someplace. The guy doesn't have a lot of money.

    The guy took BSG so seriously that he attempted to kind of become the spiritual father of it, above and beyond Glen Larson. He wrote BSG novels. He thought he knew better about how to take the franchise. But he didn't have the rights to the show. He couldn't claim to be the creator. So it was a loser's gamble.