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Multiple-Target Hyperlinks for the Masses

DukunSakti writes "For a long time people have talked about getting browser support for multilink feature. A multilink is a link that points to more than one targets. It's useful because many times a single target is not sufficient to describe a link. Wikipedia has numerous examples of acronyms and abbreviations that expand to more than one term. Well, I got sick of waiting, and so I wrote a plugin for the excellent Wiki application PmWiki that adds the multilink feature. This is fully supported under Mozilla Firefox, but only partially under Internet Explorer."

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  1. Neither "multi-target" nor "for the masses" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This is yet another Slashdot submission by an author whose creation doesn't even come close to living up to his hype....

    In fact, it is seriously misleading. It's not a new innovation; it's just a DHTML popup menu, which many other people have already implemented, and far better. Better how? Well, DukunSakti writes:
    This is fully supported under Mozilla Firefox, but only partially under Internet Explorer.
    No, actually with his code it's not supported at all under Internet Explorer. All it does is set the "title" attribute in the <a ...> tag so that the user gets a useless tooltip that is a list of a bunch of URLs which cannot be copied or edited or clicked on, so doesn't support going to any of the links at all. Instead, clicking on the link goes to a page to edit the links in the Wiki. Far more people read wikis than edit them; this should not be what happens. Yes, you can then click through to them from the editing page, but we need a second page just to be a raw list of URLs? WTF? And even under Firefox, where the "multi-target hyperlink" feature supposedly works, you just get a popup list of raw URLs. How are you supposed to know what each of them is and which you should go to? That's why a normal, well-implemented menu has actual text, not just raw URLs.

    Claiming that these are "multiple-target huperlinks for the masses," is quite inaccurate, considering that (unfortunately) 80%+ of people are still using Internet Explorer, and that for everyone else they are just presented as raw URLs. Essentially this makes this plugin completely useless. You can't ignore IE unless your wiki happens to be something like a Firefox support wiki. It's true that it's unfortunate that IE doesn't adhere to the web standards nearly as well as other browsers, but for now, the majority rules. There are plenty of web programmers who have found clever ways to do popup DHTML menus (which is all that this is) that actually work in both Firefox and IE; follow the link at the beginning of this post for a whole slew of them.
    1. Re:Neither "multi-target" nor "for the masses" by Pxtl · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah, that was my reaction too: Oh - a drop down. Whee. I'm sure that a small list of wikizens love this news, but it's hardly a big mainstream thing. A better concept would be to work more in back-end approaches, like a more robust protocol than http - for example, URLs that include back-up sources for 404s, or swarmed p2p for websites. Then provide oss plug-ins for major browsers.

    2. Re:Neither "multi-target" nor "for the masses" by ccarson · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Is it just me or have long, elaborate, thought out first posts become more prevalent on slashdot lately? Is this shit rigged? Whatever happened to the one guy who waits for a new story to post and quickly posts a, "FP"?!?!? Don't get me wrong, I like reading a first post with well thought out ideas but I'm starting to believe that these first posts are inside jobs. Oh, and for the record, I'm a former tin foil hat brigade member.

    3. Re:Neither "multi-target" nor "for the masses" by stonedonkey · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Is it just me or have long, elaborate, thought out first posts become more prevalent on slashdot lately? Is this shit rigged?

      Agreed. As far as I know, it is physically impossible for an AC to type out, let alone formulate, a response of that length in sixty seconds (or less).

      Something is definitely up. I've seen some borderline FPs lately, but this one takes the cake.

  2. It doesn't have to be that complicated by Kainaw · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While this is cute, I wrote a highly similar script in JavaScript. It takes one button and expands it out (like flower petals) into multiple buttons. http://shaunwagner.com/projects/js/flowerButton.ht ml

    As you can see fron the JavaScript, it is actually a rather simple task to position the buttons in a circle or in a simple box as this article's example does.

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  3. Not to be negative, but... by deemaunik · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anyone else see the opportunity for abuse with this? Such as the dreaded autopopup when you close a window, and endless loops of crap?

  4. Re:Multiple first post by lawpoop · · Score: 4, Interesting
    For most links, a single references is all that's needed. However, for a site like Wikipedia, a lot of links take you to a disambiguation page, which links to different entries for different meanings of a word.

    Also, for a reference site like Wikipedia, where there are a lot of links sprinkled throughout an article, would it be nice to have links to Palace and Westminster included in the link to Palace of Westminster?

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  5. Good God NO! by Run4yourlives · · Score: 1, Interesting

    1. A mutli-link is not intuitive...One click, one window, one location is the way it should be.

    2. A multi-link is asking for abuse the same way java script opening windows is asking for abuse.

    Please, don't push this on the poor users.

  6. Mod Points by ear1grey · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How timely, I have mod points: can someone please invent (and then shamelessly self-promote) a plugin that lets me mod the parent story down?

  7. In-browser function by phorm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First, for the obvious: it's not a multi-target hyperlink, it's a dropdown. However, the idea of dropdown-select style hyperlink isn't a bad one... perhaps something that could be included in an HTML spec for the future.

    At first though, I thought that this would be for a hyperlink that opens multiple locations (best-served with tabs). This would have the potential to be really annoying in the case of popup sites or if some bozo linkbombs you, but with most browsers in the future supporting tabs it does have promise. Simply have the link open multiple tabs, and then have a browser-setting that can determine how many tabs can be opened by a single link, or give a warning if over the limit.

    For example, you could have a "news" link that opens several news pages, or something of the like. This can also likely be accomplished with JavaScript (though I've never tried JS /w tabs, is there a spec)... but it would be a neat concept for future features to fully integrate the power of tabbed browsing.