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What is Mainframe Culture?

An anonymous reader asks: "A couple years ago Joel Spolsky wrote an interesting critique of Eric S. Raymond's The Art of Unix Programming wherein Joel provides an interesting (as usual) discussion on the cultural differences between Windows and Unix programmers. As a *nix nerd in my fifth year managing mainframe developers, I need some insight into mainframe programmers. What are the differences between Windows, Unix, and mainframe programmers? What do we all need to know to get along in each other's worlds?"

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  1. Re:An idea... by bit+trollent · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Yeah yeah, blame the programmer for the boss' lousy buisness plan. Make some nonsensical jab at "dreamweaver 'programming'". And wave your 10 years in the industry dick around. It is all very impressive.

    Here is a clue: In our project, like many web projects there was one web designer who used dreamweaver. I was not him. I was one of the 6-7 programmers who worked on the back end of the site pretty much only using Visual Studio and Enterprise Manager. In my own personal asp.net projects I use dreamweaver to design the site, but like anyone who knew anything about web development would tell you, You Do Not Program In Dreamweaver. Hell, even a 2nd year CS student would have figured that out by now just by reading this thread. I don't know what they pay you to do at your company but my guess is that it isn't to learn new things. Like has been stated by several users, in asp.net projects all of the real programming takes place in Visual Studio using c#.

    Assuming I don't get tired of the smug assholes I'm pretty sure I'll still be programming away in 10 years time. There is probably no convincing you of this, but then again, you can't even grasp the fundamentals of web design and programming so it's probably not a big deal. Wherever I am be in ten years but if I am anything like you I hope someone puts a bullet in my head.

  2. Re:Everything Old Is Old Again by PitaBred · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Not hard. Surreal. Academics live in a totally different world, for the most part. The only professors I ever really liked were the ones that took a few years to go work in the "real world" before returning to teach. They actually had a modicum of common sense.