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IP Telephony Drives in Power over Ethernet
GuitarNeophyte writes "The Channel Register states that although the idea for Power Over Ethernet has been around for a long time, the stage may finally be set for it to become an essential factor in our technical lives. One of the main reasons is because of the emergence of ip telephony. 'Telephones need to work in an emergency including when there is a power failure. Traditional telephones do, but IP phones will only do so if there is an uninterrupted power supply (UPS). The only practical way of guaranteeing power supply to a large number of IP phones is PoE.' Will IP telephones bring in PoE?"
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Apparently, my cousin has Ethernet over Power, that was installed by The Internet Service Guy...
...or maybe they would cancel each other out, and you'd just get regular ethernet? ...or maybe it would be like a divide-by-zero, and your NIC would explode? :P
It would be interesting to see what happens if you ran Ethernet over Power on a system powered by Power over Ethernet... who would win? an epic battle, to be sure!
That'll be great when there's a storm, and trees bring down the power lines.
Or you could just plug the switch into a UPS...
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I'd say that we will eventually have PoE, but I don't think it will be a necessary consequence of VoIP or telephony. I have VoIP, but I use it exclusively for the three hours a day I work as a call desk support monkey for my company. If I had an emergency, I have my cell phone on me as well.
This is something I've wondered about a lot: how many slashdotters out there use VoIP as their primary telecommunications resource? How many would use telephony once x gets improved?
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I remember a while back there was an article on Slashdot about how PoE can become an universal power standard. While there are different plugs and voltages used around the world, PoE has a standard jack. Sure PoE is low powered but with miniaturization, many of our devices can be powered off of PoE. With VoIP driving the spread of PoE, I hope this will build momentum in making the prediction come true. Imagine going to another country and needing to bring just a CAT 5 cable instead of a power adapter.
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We were facing the same problem and found it cheaper to inject POE right at the phone untill we found that you could buy a 24 port power injector for a couple hundred dollars off of ebay. Put these things next to your switch and inject it there.
Something is wrong with the math currently because a 24 port switch with POE is almost three times as expensive than a 24 port switch & a 24 port POE injector.
Yeah, I've had a wireless phone for years, never a single problem during a blackout, it works fine. So tell me again why we need to reinvent the cell phone?
But, one other detail, there will probably need to be a warning on the box, for use only by folks that have already HAD thier children.
My phone line has rarely gone down if ever. I can't come close to saying that about my internet connections, cable or DSL. The fact that we have two small children means when I pick up that phone in an emergency, I want it to work. I don't want to be mucking around rebooting computers and routers. That's why I've stayed away from VOIP over my existing internet connection.
Any thoughts on the reliability of this? Will VOIP ever be as solid as good old copper? I mean, you have issues (DDOS) with VOIP you just don't have with traditional PSTN service.
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and what do you think will power those access points? oh right POE
Bah, I can't wait for POWF - Power Over WiFi. Now that would be pretty darn cool!
Telephones need to work in an emergency including when there is a power failure. Traditional telephones do
The majority of phones today are cordless and practically none work without power.
I used to buy cordless phones that had a speaker on the base unit for this very reason, but alas, those also don't work anymore without power, on most modern phones.
WTF are you talking about? PoE as ratified by the IETF does a low voltage chat over the unused pairs to determine if the device needs power, the likelyhood of a device not needing power and randomly responding over the unused pair correctly to trigger power is essentially nill. Certain pre-standard PoE injectors (such as those shipped with certain Cisco/Aironet AP's) may cause damage when used on a port with other equipment attached, but anything which is compliant with the 802.3af standard should have an essentially zero percent chance of frying attached equipment.
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PoE (802.3af) is incredibly useful in for business deployments of video cameras and wifi access points, not to mention mini-switches and outdoor wireless bridge equipment. You can even power a laser link with PoE. It makes life easier for those averse to paying out huge amounts of cash to have an electrician come in and put in new outlets. I've been playing with PoE splitters recently to power non PoE gear at 5 & 12V DC - the splitters are $35 ea and are switchable between voltages.
I use this for my Power-over-Ethernet needs :)
I'm not sure what standards it supports, but it's cheap to manufacture!
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e re-it-dont-belong." But the standard was surprisingly thorough, and I very much look forward to a wider range of PoE products becoming available 1) because they will make it easy to power from renewable sources (48-56V DC, no 120V 60HZ invertor needed) and 2) because I really hate USB and it would be nice if PoE took a shot at it's market niche.
PoE rocks though. As an EE, I read the spec expecting to be horrified at all the shortcuts, brainfarts, and other cruft you find in other standards associated with ethernet or "lets-jam-everything-over-frame-based-networks-wh
Someone had to do it.