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Do Not Call List Under Attack

smooth wombat writes "Do Not Call. Those words are music to millions of Americans who have signed up for the list so they're not bothered by telemarketers. Not content to let things as they are telemarketers are now lobbying the FCC to have state laws which regulate the practice overturned. In April an ad-hoc group of firms ranging from the Direct Marketing Association to the National Children's Cancer Society filed a joint petition asking the FCC to declare that it has 'exclusive jurisdiction over interstate telemarketing calls.' The issue revolves around some states whose Do Not Call laws are more strict than Federal law and which prohibit telemarketers from calling anyone on a Do Not Call, regardless of an existing business relationship." Update: 07/21 18:42 GMT by Z : Official EPIC page, with contact info and background.

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  1. I wonder.. by Kjuib · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What part of DO NOT CALL dont they understand? I do not want people calling me trying to sell me stuff.. so DO NOT CALL me! hard to get much simpler.

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    1. Re:I wonder.. by HiddenCamper · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Somehow i was getting calls on my cell phone for a period of time, it all stopped though. seriously, if telemarketers want to call people, then telemarketers should give out "Telemarket phones" that they can call people on. Im pretty sure no one would take them.

    2. Re:I wonder.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The same thing with spammers...

      They send me emails that are barely legible, so that they can try to get around the spam filters I have set up. Do they really think, that if I've gone to that much trouble to block them, that if they do manage to get through, I will even give the spam a second glance?

      These people need to get hit with the clue stick, and hard.

    3. Re:I wonder.. by jayhawk88 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh but see, you have an "existing business relationship" with them, since this one time you bought batteries at Target with your Bank of America Visa credit card, Bank of America sold your student loan and personal information to Wells Fargo, who sold it to Sallie Mae, who sold it's list of customers to Fannie Mae, who shares a database with several mortage companies, some of whom use cold calling to drum up business during the winter months.

      How dare you not recognize the legitimate and in no way phony "existing business relationship". How do you expect Bruno's Mortgage and High Interest Loans to not communicate with you, their (possible, potential, maybe if they're drunk when we call, three times removed) customer?

    4. Re:I wonder.. by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Those emails are painful to read. I was wondering how they are meant to work.

      Let's say I'm a tech-novice. To me, those emails look like the work of a semi-literate. Would I really want to buy medicine from them?

      As a techie, I can see that they are dliberately trying to bypass spam filters which means that I instantly disregard their email.

      Funny email arrived recently claiming to be from Wells Fargo. Of course I don't even have a Wells Fargo account but even if I did, would I really be tricked since they spelt their own company name as 'Wells Forgo'?

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    5. Re:I wonder.. by eaolson · · Score: 4, Insightful
      What part of DO NOT CALL dont they understand?

      You're the one that has it wrong. They understand perfectly. They don't want to obey your wishes.

    6. Re:I wonder.. by iamplasma · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The best part of the the whole Do Not Call registry- Not only are non-profits exempt.... But so are Political candidates! Those self serving a##holes.

      Whoa, politicians may be self serving assholes, but that exception makes 100% perfect sense, for legal reasons. Quite simply, it'd almost undoubtably be a huge violation of the first amendment in the US to pass a law which says "you can't phone people and promote your political views", and I can certainly understand it. Yes, politicians are assholes, but banning political speech is a VERY dangerous path to go down, and after all, politicians are dependent on public opinion, unlike telemarketers, so if you don't like it, just vote against the guy, and send a letter in saying why.

    7. Re:I wonder.. by fatcatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I do not want people calling me trying to sell me stuff.. so DO NOT CALL me!

      Well, here's the thing, why do they even WANT to call you? If I were a telemarketer, I'd love do not call lists. Those lists would save me an awful lot of money calling people who are virtually guaranteed to not buy anything.

      It's like, "Here, these people don't want to be your customers. They won't buy anything from you. If you call them, you will be wasting time and money." And the idiots whine, "Noooo! But I WANT to call them!!! Surely my slick salesmen can talk them into SOMETHING!!"

      Man, I'd love a list like that. Talk about targeted marketing. These dorks don't seem to get it...

  2. Re:This could be VERY bad by DietCoke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I doubt it. This doesn't mean that DNC would be abolished, just that it would fall under the less-strict regulations of the federal government. Not that a change like that is a good thing, but it wouldn't put listees at risk in the manner you're suggesting.

  3. He obviously was born before it took effect by Gamingboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "There is no evidence that (a favorable FCC ruling) will lead to large increases in telemarketing calls," he said. He, obviously, does not consider the fact that the large amount of telemarketing calls before the DNC list took effect is evidence that, without a list, that they would once again reach their old levels.

  4. More Feds by magarity · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just what the USA needs. More Federal involvment instead of state by state.
    /sarcasm.

  5. Clearly for Federal Regulation by sterno · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This law makes perfect sense being a federal law. Why? Because almost all telemarketing calls are crossing state or possibly national borders. Thus there's a natural complication when you have different laws in different states with different abilities to enforce those laws on others.

    Better to have one federal law to simplify things.

    And I still wonder, why do those telemarketers want to call me if I'm on this list. Seems like they are being done a service here. I'm not going to buy their crap so no sense wasting time on a call.

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  6. Incredible by Rew190 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The worst thing about an action like this it is CLEARLY against the will of the people. The Do Not Call list is opt-in, it only applies to those who go out of their way to sign up. The only "victims" of something like this are the CORPORATIONS who are being denied the right to directly attack those who don't want to have their houses invaded by direct advertising. The people gain nothing from this sort of action, they only lose out.

    How is it possible that a democratic governing body, which is supposed to be looking out for the people, is taking a direct stance against them? Which American citizens are rallying against the DNC list?

    Yet more sad evidence that the government is more concerned with corporate interests than those of the people.

  7. Re:Doesn't bother me anymore by eln · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the only reason you have the landline is so you can get DSL, then just don't hook up a regular telephone to it. The phone can't ring if the phone doesn't exist.

  8. Attention DMA.... by Khyber · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The FCC is NOT a law-making entity.

    The FCC has no power to overturn state laws or find them unconstitutional, this is the Supreme Court's job.

    The FCC is not the way to go. Lobby Congress.

    And watch how they laugh in your face as they think "I don't want these whiny bastards calling me everyday trying to get my money that I just weaseled from the taxpayers."

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  9. Re:Doesn't bother me anymore by dakirw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or, hook up a fax machine to it. It'll provide a nice friendly greeting. :)