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New Apples Next Week

Vicissidude writes "CNN/Money reports: 'Apple may be gearing up to unveil a new slate of mini-Macs and may also release updated versions of its popular iBook laptop computers as early as next Tuesday, according to unconfirmed reports on a Web site that tracks Apple.' The Web site Think Secret reported three new Mac mini and two new iBook part numbers have appeared in Apple's retail database, indicating that new models are imminent. Apple would neither confirm nor deny the reports. The new mini models will be priced at $499, $599 and $699, with new iBooks priced at $999 and $1,299, according to the original story at Think Secret."

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  1. Great , Free, Marketing by Future+Linux-Guru · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's modern marketing miracle.

    Apple updates it's retail databases, the news gets spread from one end of the web to the other.

    Dell and MS marketing execs probably spend many a sleepless night trying to figure out how they can come up with something with nearly the same cost to value ratio.

  2. Re:My iBook died two months ago... by Saven+Marek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    it doesn't matter what you believe

    it only matters what actually happens. and in the same situation before. Mac 68k to mac PPC the dual binaries stayed in place for years. even until 2001 seven years after ppc first started to come in there were still many 68k ppc FAT apps made for 68k macs.

    when next was multiple cpu too the binaries across many platforms stayed in place for years.

    what, is a developer going to go "oh there are 7% of mac users using intel macs now it's a year after they were introduced, let us drop PPC support even though it is 93% of our market. yeeeeeeah thats smart.

    intel macs wont even contain a majority of macs until maybe 4 years after the changeover.

  3. Many people are writing by Exitar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    that they won't buy a Mac now because next year Macs will have x86 CPU.
    Ok, but the x86 Mac + Rosetta will be able to run PPC software smothly?
    If no, the new Mac will have to wait a little to have their software base enlarged.

    Obviously, if Rosetta works very well...

    1. Re:Many people are writing by adamjaskie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't forget "Fat" binaries. PowerPC and x86 code in one package, so that either platform can run a particular app. Apple's development environment can create them automatically, so for many programs that use API stuff rather than doing too much specific to the arch stuff (embedded asm, anyone?) will need a couple tweaks and a recompile to be compatible with both systems.

      Intel Macs coming out won't obsolete PowerPC Macs. They will still be supported, and the great majority of software will run on both platforms for at least a couple of years, just like the Motarola 68k to PowerPC switch years ago.

      Rosetta is a temporary measure for the apps that aren't ported right away. This will probably mainly be large, commercial apps where the user doesn't want to pay for the new Intel version right away (maybe waiting until they can upgrade to a new version rather than just the new arch) and small freeware apps that have slow development.

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  4. Re:My iBook died two months ago... by nowayout99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are tens of millions of PPC users. It would be completely illogical for companies to suddenly dump all PPC code just to market to (virtually) nobody with x86 macs. PPC support is not going to just disappear anytime soon.

  5. Re:My iBook died two months ago... by Trurl's+Machine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unless these are Intel machines, I won't buy. Sorry, I don't want to invest in a dying platform. I'm no Intel fan (more an AMD fan, and I loved the PowerPC), but buying a Gx Mac now is thrown away money. Whatever Steve says, I don't believe that binaries will stay Intel/PowerPC for very long.

    Well, let's assume they won't stay Intel/PowerPC for more than 5 years. So what? Your 2005 machine will have hard time running 2010 software anyway - Intel/PowerPC switch has nothing to do with it. You won't room "Doom III" or even MacOS 10.4 with all features on a '2000 iBook.

    Why do I assume 5 years period? I estimate it from similar situation with 68k/PowerPC switch. The first PowerPC Macs were introduced in spring 1994. The last 68k Macs were discontinued in spring 1996. So it was two years of dual CPU hardware - and further two years when software ran on both CPUs (Apple dropped 68k support in MacOS in 1998). Mactels are not to be expected before 2006. This gives me this 1+2+2 formula. Of course, it's just a guess but the bottom line is that every platform is a dying platform - no matter what you buy now, it will be obsolete in 5 years, anyway...

  6. Re:Check! by Detritus · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Wouldn't it be more sensible to wait?

    No. It's going to be a while before Intel-based Macs are available, and even longer before the glitches are worked out and fat binaries are available for most popular applications.

    You can buy a PPC Mac today and enjoy the benefits of Mac OS X. It will be useful for a long time. I still know people who make productive use of 68K-based Macs, even though they are officially obsolete. It is going to take a long time for the PPC Macs to fade away.

    If my Mac blew up today, I'd just buy a Mac mini to replace it. I'll worry about Intel-based Macs when they are available and I have a real need to replace my current Mac. If I want to run the latest games, I'll buy one of the new game consoles.

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  7. Re:apple need to bump up the entry level spec by nathanh · · Score: 5, Insightful
    OK, so i'm an apple fanboi, but one with some perspective i'd like to think. But, I'm fed up with Apple advertising machines with too little RAM as standard, combo drives instead of SuperDrives as standard,

    I chose the standard configuration; no extra RAM, no wifi, and the combo drive. The machine runs just fine with 256MB, I have no wireless network, and I have no need to burn DVDs.

    What's the point of my post? That what's best for you isn't necessarily what's best for the rest of us. Apple is doing the right thing by having bare-bone entry level computers for people like me and options for people like you.

  8. It's the reverse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wouldn't buy one of the new Intel macs until they've been out for two years. Who wants a brand new platform that isn't entirely supported yet?

    The first intel mac won't be out until next year. That means I wouldn't buy an intel mac until three years from now.... which is of course when I'd feel like buying a new computer anyway.

    The last PPC machines Apple makes are going to be classics. Completely perfected machines, all the bugs worked out, run today's software for the next five to ten years.

    But then, I'm a mac user. We actually use our computers to get work done. The theoretical value of the total market availability isn't as important to me as whether I turn out my work today. If it were, I wouldn't be on a Mac in the first place.

  9. Re:Great , Free, Marketing by justin12345 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously. Now don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Apple, but to have a /. article everytime Apple farts is pretty bad. Worse though is having a /. article everytime ThinkSecret thinks Apple is going to fart. (Followed of course by an article a day later confirming that yes Apple did infact fart.)

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  10. Re:Great , Free, Marketing by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dell and MS marketing execs probably spend many a sleepless night trying to figure out how they can come up with something with nearly the same cost to value ratio.

    How about they do something interesting? Apple's news is reported on /. because, rightly or wrongly, Apple is perceived as doing interesting new things, some of which fail and and some of which work. Dell doesn't do much new at all (and makes vast sums doing that, so I'm guessing they're happy in that position.)

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  11. Re:My iBook died two months ago... by Reaperducer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Fact is that no company, be it Apple or 3rd parties wants to support two different architectures.

    Don't video game companies do this every day?

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