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Self-Cleaning Buildings to Fight Smog

bryan8m writes "Using technology already available for self-cleaning windows and bathroom tiles, scientists hope to paint up cities with materials that dissolve and wash away pollutants when exposed to sun and rain. The idea: UV rays hitting the titanium dioxide coated cement and concrete trigger a catalytic reaction that destroys the molecules of pollutants, including nitrogen oxides."

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  1. Solar? by 2bitcomputers · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wouldn't it be smarter to cover the buildings with solar panels, use that to power half the building and cut down of the amount of smog created by the power plants instead? Your car puts out NOTHING compared to a 250Mw coal plant.

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    1. Re:Solar? by jacksonj04 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      OMGS you suggested nuclear die die planet killing scum!
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      Seriously though, whilst I'm all in favour of nuclear it lacks a lot of public support.

      A better idea would be to plant rooftop gardens, and hang cylindrical turbines off the sides of buildings. Cities act like big wind tunnels between tall buildings, cylindrical turbines could be used to turn this air into power for the building whilst the garden on the top helps buffer some of the pollution and generally make a nicer place.

      Alternatively, make the centre of large cities pedestrian only.

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  2. Re:Effective? by Graymalkin · · Score: 4, Informative

    Keyword here is catalytic reaction. A catalyst is a substance that initiates a chemical reaction but is not consumed itself in the reaction. The catalyst in the paint would stay in existence, it would simply break down pollutants when they came in contact with the material when UV radiation was hitting it. As long as the pollutants were reduced to innocuous materials there wouldn't be an issue with toxic waste disposal.

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  3. Tarffic is the primary cause of pollution by October_30th · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Your car puts out NOTHING compared to a 250Mw coal plant.

    Traffic is the primary cause of pollution in inhabited areas and car emissions are harder to control than those of a single 250 MW coal plant.

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  4. Why not just fight the root of the problem by smidget2k4 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and reduce the pollution? Technologies like this just make it seem like pollution is alright. Out of sight, out of mind.

    How about buildings with living roofs or use solar panels and wind turbines to reduce reliance on the local smog producing powerplant.

    Or move on over to and build a community to reuse energies wasted by other nearby businesses (like the heat that would otherwise be lost through restaurant ovens can be used to help heat the floor above, etc).

    Or, you know... we can just pretend it is not there. Either way...

    1. Re:Why not just fight the root of the problem by ocelotbob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      y'know, you can do both things. Yes, cutting back the sources is a good thing, but cleaning up your mess is also quite important too; people have different specialties, having everyone work on the One True Solution rarely is beneficial in the long run.

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  5. Re:Now, can we put DC on the transmission lines? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Now, that high power solid-state switches ( hence, power converters ) are becoming do-able, is there any way we can start putting high-voltage DC on our power grids?

    DC is horribly inefficient at delivering power. Besides, high voltage is high voltage. Power lines run just under the voltage needed to ionize the air. Once you ionize the air, then you set up currents, and those currents are sucking power, power that isn't being delivered, and could have been charged for.

  6. Re:Consider the source by jcr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seems to make more sense to cut off the sources of the polution than to remove them from the environment.

    Ok, then: you go convince everyone to stop driving cars and stuff, and get back to us when you've got some progress to report. In the meantime, we'll go ahead and implement self-cleaning buildings.

    -jcr

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  7. Re:titanium dioxide? by a+whoabot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How's it a free economy when corporations are given power by the state to take from public property with no recourse for others who have a stake in this public property?

    How is it a free economy when corporations are given power by the state to pollute the property of third persons with limited liability? When a corporations puts pollutants into the air and they enter my property and they hurt me when I breath them, I have no avenue of fair recourse because the government forces me through violence, and the threat of, to accept the damage without proper or any compensation.

    How is it a free economy when people are forced by the state to accept corporate pollution of their properties? State interference is not part of a free market. If it was a free market, I would be able to find recompense from all of these polluters for their harm of my person and destruction of my properties.

    I agree with you that "right wing" does not apply to this situation very well.

  8. Titanium dioxide has other problems by domefreak · · Score: 4, Informative
    The article explains that the smog-busting coating for buildings will contain titanium dioxide. They note that this compound is already prevalent in paints, but presumably this process requires a higher concentration than that. I searched GreenSpec for any existing paints that use this effect, and instead found this interesting fact:
    The production of pigments can be a highly polluting process. When titanium dioxide is extracted from sand, large quantities of by-products are produced that have historically been disposed of by ocean dumping and/or deep-well injection. The process of refining titanium dioxide is also very energy intensive, with significant releases of carbon dioxide and sulfur oxides. The European Community considers these problems associated with titanium dioxide so serious that they have established limits on the amount of white pigment allowed, and limits on allowable emissions from pigment manufacture, for paints under consideration for the European Eco Label.
    (from Environmental Building News, February 1999)