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Perspectives On Thompson's Latest Crusade

Game Girl Advance has a much needed perspective piece on Jack Thompson's crusade against the Sims 2. From the article: "Tabling lying to the ESRB and even putting the whole Sims2 points aside (because honestly, I find any of Thompson's arguments against Sims2 to be hollow at best, I just included them to show a trend), isn't it just a lot bit late for anyone to be complaining about the sex issue? I don't mean us complaining, I mean I find it almost laughable at this point that people might think that there's any seventeen year olds who haven't seen worse than Hot Coffee already, and those that are playing GTA:SA need to have their virgin eyes saved. Let's face it: you've already lost that battle. If a kid has the ability or inclination to mod GTA:SA for Hot Coffee, they've probably bit-torrented their fair share of porn by now." My own commentary below. I just don't get this one. You want to go after GTA? Fine. There's enough ho-slapping and cop-killing in that game to make a politician's career. But the Sims? The raciest bits you find in there are the kind of stuff you see on a reality TV show shown at prime-time on one of the big networks. The Sims has been one of the cornerstones of game sales in recent years. Hundreds of thousands of people are going to play that game today, people that might not have otherwise gotten into video games if not for the easy to understand controls, intriguing gameplay, and the ability to project yourself onto the gamespace.

Blood-sucking remora like Thompson are the biggest dangers to further acceptance of gaming as a healthy passtime. He is taking the specific case of GTA and the ESRB ruling and broadening it out such that a 3rd party mod is affecting perceptions of an excellent game title. I have no doubt in my mind, either, that his righteous fury is entirely motivated by a desire for personal profit and prestige. He is using the prevailing winds of U.S. society to increase his place in the public eye, at the expense of gaming as a hobby and game-making as a profession.

My hope is that the mainstream media, when they pick up this story, will be able to see beyond the smokescreen Thompson has created to the real issues at hand.

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  1. archaic view of video games... by beowulfy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think that a lot of the chest thumping battle cries by politicians against sexual content in video games comes from the archaic view that video games are something just for kids. It's hard to belive that these people would be so far behind the times as to belive this, but it seems to be true...

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    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -Hunter S. Thompson
  2. Another "Blame it on games" cycle by defkkon · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I'm a huge gamer, and a big supporter of holding parents accountable for controlling what their kids play. Blame it on the game makers, blame it on the ESRB, blame it on the government - if your little shit-rat beats someone up because of playing GTA, its your fault as a parent.

    Anyway, I digress.

    This will all die out. The Thompson's and Clinton's of the world will soon lose interest, and the gaming industry will be left alone for a while. Then, someone will do something stupid, and blame it on video games. Its all a vicious cycle.

    Sorta like the 90's, when it was all about music. Everyone blamed their kids' bad behaviour on Marilyn Manson, NIN, etc.

    *sigh* I really do get sick of it though...

    1. Re:Another "Blame it on games" cycle by Psmylie · · Score: 4, Insightful
      When my nephew was six, he kicked me. I mean, seriously kicked me. He jumped off the couch, and with a karate-movie style scream ("HiiiiYA!") kicked me in the small of the back. Why did he do this? Because he wanted to be one of the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers, and they did that kind of crap all the time.
      OK, so now I have a choice... what do I do?

      A: Immediately write an angry letter to the television station and the maker of the show, blaming them for my nephew's actions

      B: Sit my nephew down and explain to him that kicking people hurts them, and that it's not acceptable to hurt other people. And, incidently, if you kick people they may get mad and kick you back.

      I chose option B (after yelling at him more then a little bit, I have to confess... it fricken' hurt, after all), and my nephew never kicked me again. Also, I had a talk with my brother about what happened, and we agreed that, if he can't make the distinction between fantasy violence and real violence, then maybe he shouldn't be watching Power Rangers (which is for the best, really... that show was/is complete crap).

      So, yeah. It's a parent's responsibility to make his/her kid safe for society, not the government's job to make society safe for kids. You'll never be able to clear away all the jagged edges in life, so its better to teach kids to avoid them.

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  3. Somebody explain this to me by jclast · · Score: 5, Insightful

    GTA III: Screw a hooker, kill her, take your money back. Rating: M.

    GTA:SA: Have consentual sex with your girlfriend. Rating: AO.

    What message are we sending here?

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  4. Re:We need to be more like our European friends... by kingsmedley · · Score: 5, Insightful


    In any European country, there is not that much emphasis put on sex


    This is a stereotype, assumed to be true based on incomplete or circumstantial evidence. Truth is, many European nations have laws regarding sexual content in media, ESPECIALLY when it comes to such content being exposed to children. Yes, public nudity may be more socially acceptable in France than, say, Missouri. But what about Poland? Or Ireland? Germany? The UK? To simply say all Europeans accept all sexuality openly, and all Americans repress it, is absurd.

    The difference is a matter of politics and history. Europe was once quite conservative, and many Europeans brought these attitudes to America when they moved here. But during the Great Depression, many ultra conservative governments took power in Europe. After WWII, there was a backlash against the intolerance of the Nazis and the Fascists. But in the USA things went differently. America did not experience the same horrors in the course of the war, just as they did not experience the same repression prior to the war. So Americans did not abandon their social and political intolerance. Over time, this country has learned that some of those values (sexism, racism, etc.) are immoral, and American society has largely discarded them.

    Now back to the issue at hand. Regardless of where you fall on the matter of sexuality and violence in media, essentially the country has accepted the notion that it is up to the parents to decide what their chidren should be exposed to. Because of the vast difference of religious and social values in the USA, the sensitive topics of sex and violence have become the subject of ratings systems - in movies, television, music, and games. So it may seem we are unreasonably upset or sensitive to something like a bare breast. But the truth is, the ratings exist to help the public decide if the content in question falls within their personal levels of tolerance. And it is the same in Europe, and Australia, and Asia, and so on. Any country that prides itself on freedom allows it's people to choose for themselves.

    As others have said before, Jack's yelling and screaming on these issues is merely a reflection of his own desire for prestige, and perhaps even political clout. Sales numbers reflect that in fact, most parents are comfortable that they (and perhaps their children) can handle the content of the games he attacks. So don't use the ranting of loudmouth nutjobs to judge the level of intolerance of a society. Clearly a great number of Americans are comfortable with the content of R rated movies and M rated games - they just aren't making much noise about it.

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    Must... think up... something... clever!
  5. Re:We need to be more like our European friends... by Flyboy+Connor · · Score: 2, Insightful
    To simply say all Europeans accept all sexuality openly, and all Americans repress it, is absurd.

    True, but there is a difference in what is meant by "sexuality" between Europe and the US. In most countries in Europe, sexuality refers to sexual intercourse, not to nudity. In the US, nudity equals sexuality.

    Over time, this country has learned that some of those values (sexism, racism, etc.) are immoral, and American society has largely discarded them.

    You don't say it, but you suggest that this is not the case in Europe. And that is false.

    But the truth is, the ratings exist to help the public decide if the content in question falls within their personal levels of tolerance. And it is the same in Europe, and Australia, and Asia, and so on. Any country that prides itself on freedom allows it's people to choose for themselves.

    Yes, that's the ratings system. But the system itself is not what it's about. It's about people who misuse ratings and rally people, just to profit from it.

    Clearly a great number of Americans are comfortable with the content of R rated movies and M rated games - they just aren't making much noise about it.

    True, but don't underestimate the power of the masses that get rallied easily. The problem is never the people who can and do think for themselves.