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How Should One Respond to a Network Break In?

Jety asks: "I am the sole IT support for a medium sized residential real estate office. It has a network of one main server, 10 office workstations, and another 40 or so agent's personal computers. I discovered via logs that recently someone made about 50 remote login attempts to the server, guessing at passwords, but it would appear that they were not able to gain access. They did, however, leave an IP address in the logs. It turns out to be an Exchange server for another business in the same city. What is an appropriate response to this sort of failed break-in attempt? How seriously should one react? How should it be presented to management, and should you encourage them to over or under react? Should the other business, whose server was used to launch the attack, be informed? Should you try to surveil them first to learn about who is doing their tech work? With what tone should they be approached and/or accused? What would a suitable response from that company entail?"

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  1. First and foremost, cover your ass. by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Document everything in writing, discuss the situation with your superiors, and seriously consider initiating some form of legal action. If you are the first to get litigious, you stand a better chance of having the situation resolved in your favor. Unfortunate, but true.

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  2. It probably isn't even them by Stone+Rhino · · Score: 5, Informative

    You shouldn't start out accusatorily, because it's most likely that they're not the ones attempting the breakin. It's more likely that their box has been hijacked and is being used as a proxy to launch attacks against your computer for someone else.

    After all, who uses an exchange server as their terminal to log in to other computers? If it was one of the desktops, then it would make sense that they were attacking.

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    1. Re:It probably isn't even them by linzeal · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Unless he lives in a large city I highly doubt your suspicions, if that happened in my town of 30k you can bet all the beans in Boston that some summer intern has gone rogue. I have dealt with similiar things while working for an art gallery in Phoenix. We had our WWW server compromised at a datacenter that we did not control and a trojan was installed in a scratch directory with the name of a popular program for digital art manipulation at the time. One of my friends downloaded and installed it on the main point of sale machine in the front of the shop and it almost immmediately attempted to phone home to a ip address owned by a competing art co-op who had been dissed by us in a play performed at our gallery the month before. It was stopped by Tiny Personal Firewall which was installed on all machines in the gallery.

      We did not call the police, instead we found out the format it was sending information in and what it was reporting. So we took the program and installed it on disconnected machine to play with it. It scanned a hard drive for Jpeg, PDF and PSD files and than sent them in a zipped file to the address every night at 3 am. So we had a meeting to decide on what we should send them. We decided to send someone they did not know to photograph inside their gallery when they were not looking. After we had most of their new installation photoed and scanned, FYI this is before digital cameras were cheap.

      After that we found out where they lived and took pictures of them leaving their houses in the morning for some who lived nearby, their licence plates and inside of their cars, where they worked some with pictures of them working and sent it to them a few days later. About a week after that we took pictures of someone taking pictures of us from across the street in a car we did not recognize and blew up the image to find the culprit who we told the competing gallery about which promptly took his whole installation including 2 computers synchronizing motion to music (just a program downloaded off the net) and left all of it in the back of the building in central Phoenix in broad daylight. Virtually nothing survived, lol. Some people were pissed we took photos of them and their art but I believe it it legal to do so in public. Correct me if I'm wrong.

  3. Simple by rylin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You try contacting abuse@ the other company.
    If that fails, you call them up and ask for their tech-lead.

    You already have your logfiles, and reasonably secured server.
    What you can gain here is a partnership - or at least an exchange of favors every now and then - between your company and the remote one.

    That said, if the other company isn't responsive, you firewall them to hell and get on with your daily work.

    You'll want to give management a brief notice about what's happening before you do this, obviously.
    After you've talked to abuse@, you tell management what happened.

    Now is the time to see over your authentication schemes. Are your users logging in over SSH? With passwords instead of keys? (Hint: keys are nicer).

    After this is said and done, you paypal me $90 for doing your job.
    Cheers!

  4. Don't overreact by Nos. · · Score: 4, Informative

    Start off by blocking remote logins (ssh?) from anywhere except where you want to allow people to log in from. Second, I would send a polite, email to their tech contact, or if you can't find that, regular post mail to the company. Don't overreact. Their are a lot of ssh worms out there. I have one machine where I watch for these kinds of things. I see at least 3 or 4 worms hitting my box a day.

    1. Re:Don't overreact by Nos. · · Score: 5, Informative

      Speaking of which, I was just chatting with a buddy who has a Brute Force rule setup in IP tables. Too many connections from a single IP within a set amount of time creates a temporary ban of that IP.

      Here's what he wrote to an IRC channel we were on (this is untested but should be close):

      • iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -j SSH_Brute_Force
      • iptables -A SSH_Brute_Force -m recent --name SSH --set --rsource
      • iptables -A SSH_Brute_Force -m recent ! --rcheck --seconds 60 --hitcount 4 --name SSH --rsource -j RETURN
      • iptables -A SSH_Brute_Force -m limit --limit 3/min -j LOG --log-prefix "SSH Brute Force Attempt: "
      • iptables -A SSH_Brute_Force -p tcp -j REJECT
      Again, I haven't tried this yet, but generally speaking, 4 ssh connects within 60 seonds on eth0 will result in a 3 minute ban - I think.
  5. Personally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I always celebrate. Oh wait, you mean as the victim? Hrm..

  6. Depends by linuxwrangler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Frankly I'm a lot more afraid of a successful breakin that I don't discover than heaps of unsuccessful attempts that I do.

    Essentially everyone who attempts to hit my ftp server with anonymous is trying to break in - the address is only known to a few people who have accounts and I can see from the logs that the other attempts are just scripted tries.

    Similarly, I'm see several attempts every day to log into my machines via ssh (where an attempt may involve from a dozen to hundreds of tries to log in). Don't even get started on what I see in the http or smtp logs.

    I work at a small company, too, and I could pull everyone off their jobs and still not have enough manpower to investigate each attempted breakin, locate and contact the appropriate parties, etc.

    As mentioned elsewhere, most of these machines are compromised so you are really spending your time to provide unpaid antivirus support for the other party's machine. You have to pick your battles.

    Depending on my workload and the probability of a positive result I'll contact someone as a courtesy. Generally my criteria is that I am able to make telephone contact with a person responsible for the machine relatively quickly.

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  7. Re:Call/email them by Aeiri · · Score: 4, Informative

    It might be not even them due to spoofing, but most likely, it is unauthorized use of their machine.

    How would you go about brute forcing a server using IP spoofing? With IP spoofing, you don't get the packets to return to you, they get returned to the server, then dropped. No complete TCP connection can be made.

    Therefore, SSH would never get the packet to begin with, and even if it did, and got your full packet, it wouldn't send the "success" or "failure" to you.

    That computer is obviously either compromised (most likely), or being used by authorized personnel to launch this attack (very unlikely).