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Could IBM Shake up the Search Engine World?

overshoot writes "IBM has just tossed a bucket of chum into the whole search showdown, which Microsoft thought was between them and Google. Apparently, IBM Research has developed a 'key facts' search technology (as distinct from 'key words') over the last several years. Now they're going public with it -- by putting it on SourceForge under an OSS license!" (According to the article, it's expected to show up on SourceForge by the end of this year, not immediately.)

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  1. ok but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll stick to letting Google know every single detail of my life thanks.

  2. Yay. by Sinryc · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yay, now EVERYONE can make their own Search Engine and say how they are SO much better then everyone elses!

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    1. Re:Yay. by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Yay, now EVERYONE can make their own Search Engine and say how they are SO much better then everyone elses!

      Well, let's just hope it becomes one big, honkin' FOSS project.

      Search technology is huge. Having it available which apparently can index conceptual links as opposed to literal links is astounding.

      I say smart move on IBM's side. Get all the publicity of opening up really cool tech to the open-source community, then proceed to make a gazillion dollars in professional services gigs, and get the added benefit of everyone making your tech better because it's useful.

      Provided this isn't steamingly fresh technology (unlikely from IBM realy) they should see some interest in this.

      I for one, can imagine a nice bunch of associative content, and am wondering how much resources this might require to run on a machine and I'm going to go RTFA. =)
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  3. http://almaden.ibm.com/cs/crawler by Urgo · · Score: 5, Informative

    wfp2.almaden.ibm.com - - [08/Aug/2005:15:48:34 -0400] "GET /robots.txt HTTP/1.0" 200 69 "-" "http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/crawler [fc7]"
    wfp2.almaden.ibm.com - - [08/Aug/2005:15:48:38 -0400] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 41317 "-" "http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/crawler [fc7]"

    I've been getting once a day connections on my server from ibm for quite some time now (a year or so). Doesn't surprise me in the least. :)

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  4. not a web search engine by sled · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From TFA: "While simple but powerful keyword searches have revolutionized how Internet users locate and retrieve information, IBM is looking to transform how office workers sift through the piles of data stored inside organizations."

    The posting implies that IBM is entering into competition with MS and Google. I saw no indication that IBM intends to launch a web search engine.

    1. Re:not a web search engine by b0r1s · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Google appliance is marketed (if not in the online docs, at least in person) as an enterprise tool for organizations to search their internal data. While this ceratinly isn't their primary revenue stream, this tool would in fact compete with that aspect of Google's business.

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  5. chum and guns by Burz · · Score: 4, Funny

    a bucket of chum into the whole search showdown,

    This is an awful mixed metaphor. How does Slashdot expect its readers to navigate the treacherous IT seas with such poorly-seasoned and half-baked information?

    1. Re:chum and guns by overshoot · · Score: 5, Funny
      This is an awful mixed metaphor. How does Slashdot expect its readers to navigate the treacherous IT seas with such poorly-seasoned and half-baked information?

      It's easy when you're three sheets to the wind, even if you pepper your reply with editorial condiments. Anyway, the goose is sufficiently sauced to be worth a gander.

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    2. Re:chum and guns by CaptainCarrot · · Score: 5, Funny
      I know! It throws a monkey wrench into that entire kettle of fish! There's no foothold you could sink your teeth into! It blows your mind from the ground up!

      ...and so forth.

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  6. what about yahoo!? by dezmund · · Score: 5, Insightful

    MSN thought it was between them and google?
    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/cmp/20050 722/tc_cmp/166401634
    sorry bill, but if anything its between yahoo (22% share of all searches) and google (47%).

    Not to mention most of those MSN searches (12%) are from IE users who don't know how to change their browser's start page.

    1. Re:what about yahoo!? by Punboy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Plus, those who think that the address bar are for system commands (and are thus afraid of it) and the search-bar is where you type in the website address o.O

      My grandparents are weird.

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  7. Get it now by QuantumG · · Score: 3, Informative

    Unstructured Information Management Architecture SDK. The UIMA SDK (Software Development Kit), is an all-JavaTM implementation of the UIMA framework, and it supports the implementation, description, composition, and deployment of UIMA components and applications. It also supports the developer with an Eclipse -based development environment that includes a set of tools and utilities for using UIMA.

    Go you crazy Java dudes, go.

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  8. Just ignore the link in the slashdot item by hackwrench · · Score: 5, Informative

    The important information is simply the url http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/uima/

    1. Re:Just ignore the link in the slashdot item by SnprBoB86 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Definitely read/skim the SDK User's Guide http://dl.alphaworks.ibm.com/technologies/uima/UIM A_SDK_Users_Guide_Reference.pdf

      The annotator premise is almost too simple; it's brilliant.

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  9. Big Blue Marbles by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So Google and MS will incorporate the "key facts" code into their products. That won't exactly shake up the search engine world. It will (possibly) improve it for everyone, and maybe (if "key facts" works better than their proprietary "key words" functions) even let another engine compete in their category. The latter might shake something up. But, like every other mass human activity, this competition is fought over brand names. Google clevery established a terrific brand, through careful simplicity and consistency in graphic and info design. This IBM release would merely grant more substance to the existing brands, and some substance to any newly emerging one. Which new brand would have to establish its own competitive value, largely through style.

    IBM's move does have the power to shake up the open/proprietary software jihad underway. If Microsoft used their open code, it would be hard for MS to claim that open source is inherently bad, or proprietary code is inherently superior. Google would demonstrate the same argument, but no one complains about Google's code remaining proprietary, because it mainly runs on their servers, which few people yet demand should be opened to outsiders. These are the kind of subtle strategic moves that let IBM continue to pull the strings of the entire industry. Success that generates more business and flexibility for IBM, in the mixed open/proprietary space it's carving for itself, will also demonstrate another powerful idea. American corporations can achieve market influence through strategic deployment of basic R&D. Not just through proprietary products, but also through manipulation of competitors who adopt open tech they create.

    All in all, this looks like a smart move by IBM. Let's hope 1> this rumor is true; 2> the tech is really good; and 3> we're not already too far gone down the entrenched lines between our corporate jihadis to get the benefit of the mutual cooperation that this tech could enable, to great mutual benefit.

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  10. Little to do with opponents... by AutopsyReport · · Score: 4, Informative
    From the article... "I don't see any of the major players moving into this area," Arthur Ciccolo, head of search technology at IBM Research, said of how major consumer Internet search companies such as Google, Yahoo Inc. and Microsoft have focused on the public Internet instead of private record data retrieval.

    And from the Slashdot summary... IBM has just tossed a bucket of chum into the whole search showdown, which Microsoft thought was between them and Google.

    No, IBM's technology has little to do with Google, Yahoo or Microsoft's search technology. This isn't a competition until either three introduce similar technology. Reading the article's third paragraph would clarify this, and would make the summary a little more accurate, too.

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  11. Why wait for SourceForge? by r_jensen11 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's available now. As the article says:

    UIMA technology is expected to be made available through open-source software site SourceForge by the end of 2005. The UIMA framework can currently be downloaded free of charge from IBM AlphaWorks at http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/uima/.

    So, I ask, why wait for it to appear on SF if we can get it now?

    1. Re:Why wait for SourceForge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      um, because it's closed source right now

  12. Just for Reference by AoT · · Score: 4, Funny

    10 tads = 1 few

    10 fews = 1 some

    10 somes = 1 alot

    10 alots = 1 load

    10 loads = 1 buttload

    10 buttloads = 1 assload

    10 assloads = 1 shitload

    10 shitloads = 1 fuckload

    I do not have the book here or I would give the non-metric chart, you know how hard it is to remeber how many hogsheads are in an imperial buttload?