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Internet Security Warnings

Juha-Matti Laurio writes "Internet Storm Center's Diary reported today: Due to a number of very well working Windows exploits for this weeks patch set, and the zero-day Veritas exploit, we decided to turn the Infocon to yellow. The following Internet Threat Level meters are at level 2/4 because of Windows Plug and Play vulnerability's several exploit codes too: Symantec ThreatCon as a part of global DeepSight Threat Management System saying Increased alertness and Internet Security Systems X-Force with Increased vigilance at AlertCon."

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  1. Re:Another color-code system? by confusion · · Score: 2, Informative

    To the security departments of companies the elevated levels mean that we have something new to pay attention to that we haven't been looking for before. Certainly being green doesn't mean that we can let our guards down.

    Applying these alert levels doesn't make any sense at the individual level, for the exact reason you gave.

    Jerry
    http://www.cyvin.org/

  2. Plug and Play vulnerabilities already known by Parallax+Blue · · Score: 2, Informative

    Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't there already been warnings about Plug and Play prior to this? I know at least one security website that had warnings about Plug and Play a long time ago, along with a handy utility to disable it. See below.

    http://grc.com/UnPnP/UnPnP.htm

    You'll notice this was circa December 2001, fully 4 years before these new exploits.

    1. Re:Plug and Play vulnerabilities already known by insecuritiez · · Score: 4, Informative

      That link refers to UPnP, Universal Plug and Play, a networking based technology for device discovery and configuration. The vulnerability concerning the ISC is a PnP vulnerability. Plug and Play is used for internal device discovery and configuration. The two are totally different. Microsoft, in a fit of brilliance though that exposing the internal PnP via RPC to the rest of the world was a good idea. As it turns out there is an unchecked buffer than with Windows 2000 machines in accessible via a NULL Session. In XP and 2003 the buffer requires a valid account or even and admin account to expose. The threat of a Windows 2000 based worm in the next few days is very real. All of you with XP and 2003 aren't in immediate worm danger.

    2. Re:Plug and Play vulnerabilities already known by homesteader · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is not an old exploit. It's quite fresh . . .

      August 9th Release, which is 4 days ago. Exploits were reported in the wild on Friday, 3 days after the release. There's also a remote exploit in the Spooler service, which is of course enabled by default on all Win2k/XP/2k3 machines. I approved this patch on Friday, hopefully Monday won't bring scores of hosed machines.

      Microsoft Security Bulletin MS05-039 (899588)
      http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=48900/

  3. Netcraft Confirms It. by bmo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Windows is dying.

    Well, it's deathly ill, mostly. The average Windows end user is in a never ending battle against the baddies. They buy their systems at the Best Buy, bring them home, run for a couple of months, and then complain that they can't login.

    Then they call me, or someone like me. With disdain, I inform them that I'm wicked busy but I'll do it "this time".

    When I get my grubby hands on their machines, they're fubar. It's not for lack of trying either, because there are multiple Virus, Trojan, and Firewall apps, all fighting over the same machine, including the odd fake anti-trojanwares. You know the one's I'm talking about. We've all seen them. "Click here for a FREE security scan!" and then the machine gets YET another bit of evil.

    I simply don't know what to do anymore. I clean them up, set up security, knowing - just KNOWING that it's all in vain. Just yesterday, I got an "e-postcard" in the mail, and it was just an overt attempt at infection. There wasn't anything that would trip an AV or firewall in the mail, just an obfuscated link that actually pointed at a crypically named .exe. I know far too many people who are e-card addicts, and I am SURE they would have clicked.

    Toast. Totally goddamn toast. The fact that Windows programs have their execute bit as part of the filename is probably the worst thing ever to happen to an OS. One click, and yet another "svchost.exe" process. No lube, no kiss, no reach-around, just total PC anal rape.

    And without a total redesign of Windows or dumping the platform for Apple or Linux, Joe and Josephine User are SOL. Vista is going to be more of the same, as it's going to be simply XP SP3 with more chrome.

    Ah well.

    If anyone knows anything about a0190313376667.gif.exe, mail me at my alias AT Entropy dawt TMOK dawt com. There's hardly anything on the 'net about it except some German blogs.

    --
    BMO

    1. Re:Netcraft Confirms It. by bmo · · Score: 5, Informative

      I think you misunderstand....

      I am _not_ a professional admin who has a network of machines to maintain or easy access to the machines I fix or the authority to command people to do as I want. I'm "the guy that fixes stuff" for his friends/enemies.

      Go 'round every couple of months requesting that everyone send me their machines for updating the OS? Are you out of your mind? Ghost? Are you out of your mind? These are all individual machines, not something cookie-cutter that I could administer in a sane way.

      Yes, I would love to standardize all these machines with the same Windows distribution. I would love to partition the drives so that the OS resides on a separate partition from the user data, and yet another partition for the extra installed programs. That would be sane. But that would mean I would have to furnish boxed copies of XP at the retail price myself, to be sold to the "customers" so I can do it up right.

      "But I have Windows! Why do I have to buy another?"

      Things were so much simpler when PCs came with full OS licenses and a full set of disks. Now, the only choice is to either manually disinfect for HOURS without disturbing too much of the installation, or format and use the "recovery" cd, and the user is fucked for whatever was on the machine if it was never backed up.

      It's fucking maddening is what it is.

      The day that Microsoft stopped the likes of Dell and HP from furnishing OEM CDs spelled doom for the customer who wanted to have a multiple partition setup. Now if you want that, you need a purchase a full Windows kit that costs 200 bux for XP Home.

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      BMO

    2. Re:Netcraft Confirms It. by Emporerx · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hi,

      If I'm not mistaken, that particular executable file is probably one of many created by a program called WinPup(WinPup32?). When I used windows I noticed spikes in CPU usage at about five second intervals. I called up the mighty(HA) task manager and took a look at the processes. Randomly named .exe's popped up every five seconds.

      Do a google on WinPup. It will involve(if I remember correctly) deleting the winpup file from /system32 and editing the registry. Best in safe mode if I'm right. This can be tricky because the registry entry also changes names with the random executables so you must be fast(even in safe mode). It is a bitch. Probably one of the harder ones I had to remove.

      I hope this helps you bmo. Let us know.

      As for the new security threats.. Bah. I run linux, very happily, now.

    3. Re:Netcraft Confirms It. by pmdata · · Score: 2, Informative

      Great post. Part of the problem is just like you say, Windows is dead and should be retired as soon as possible. The other issue is that we are a reactionary society, only "fixing" the problems that become too out of control or after a monsterous disaster. This easily applies to information security Couple that with the fact that everything today has to be easy and intantaneous, and you've got real problems.

  4. Re:The waiting game? by jerw134 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The patches for Windows are already out: click

  5. Re:And it doesn't help that many legit Windows use by jerw134 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Critical updates can still be obtained without passing WGA.

  6. Re:Yellow is pretty rare.. by lamj · · Score: 5, Informative

    One happy customer :-)

    You are correct. We want the infocon to stay at green most of the time and only raise it when necessary. Think about this, if we keep it at yellow all the time, it would eventually lower people's perception of the current threat. Trust me, we do try very hard to only raise it when necessary and appropriately.

    Disclaimer: I am one of the ISC guys.

  7. Re:It hate to say it... by advocate_one · · Score: 4, Informative

    the final two paragraphs you quoted are not from the email, but are PJ's comments on the matter... please give proper attribution NEXT TIME... for our regular readers, here's the link to the proper article he quoted from...

    --
    Donald 'Duck' Dunn: We had a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
  8. Mostly Business as usual... by Fallen+Andy · · Score: 3, Informative

    I guess someone over at ISC had to blow the dust off the colo(u)r sensor (grins), but seriously, not much on the radar to panic anyone right now. Still, if you aren't awake you really ought to add ISC to your
    morning newspaper (wakeup + gallon of coffee) along with some others, so for the sake of people who don't grok the need to be aware (but: go read doug adams and don't panic as well!):

    Here goes: (sometimes costs me an hour in the morning, but it's worth the effort...).

    http://www.dshield.org/ http://secunia.com/ http://vitalsecurity.org/ http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/ - gossip and just
    plain fun (cough) dilbert (cough).
    (many others, but i'm tooo lazy on a sunday morning to write em...).

    Oh, and be sure to replace the windows task manager with the wonderful (process explorer)
    over at the always splendid Mark Russinovich's sysinternals.com (it'll save you when your friends machine gets pwn3d). (hint: it shows tcp/ip connections so you can see if ET is phoning home).

    Finally, no list would be complete without a pointer to "comp.risks" (google groups ok?). Laugh. It helps...

    cheers all,
    Andy.

  9. Re: 40 mothers agree: Cleaning Windows is a PITA by homesteader · · Score: 5, Informative

    More often than not these days, the real tough buggers have randomly generated process names. Here's how I clean a machine:

    Tools required:

    Process Explorer(procexp) from http://www.sysinternals.com/
    autoruns.exe from the same, or hijackthis.exe from http://www.merijn.org/
    Any good virus scanner(McAfee's Enterprise scanner is decent. Use a simple scanner if possible, not a scanner/firewall/spam filter/personal servant. It will be generally be faster and simpler.
    Ad-Aware from http://www.lavasoft.de/
    LSPFix from http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm/
    Updated Stinger from McAfee http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/
    Experience enough to know valid windows processes and files.

    Have all of this on a USB drive or CD. Will probably fit on a 64mb drive, unless your virus package is bulky.

    Boot to safe mode

    Start Task Manager or Proc Explorer and kill anything that doesn't look good, or everything that you know isn't part of windows. You could go to Control Panels:Admin Tools:Services and stop all services first, this will narrow the field.

    Run Stinger, just let it scan memory and running apps. Don't wait for it to do a full system scan.

    Run Ad-Aware, do the same. Just trying to ditch bad things that are actually running.

    If you've gotten this far in 15 minutes, the machine probably isn't in too bad of shape. Dump all temp files, c:\temp, c:\winnt(windows)\temp, c:\documents and settings\username\local settings\temp, c:\documents and settings\username\local settings\temporary internet items

    Update virus definitions and do a full scan. Latest SuperDAT from McAfee or Definitions from Symantec or whoever you use, should also be put on the USB drive or CD.

    So, virus scan didn't deal with it, or couldn't stop/remove it? This is where it gets tricky and completely manual. This is the point where most people give up, since you really need to know what should be where in Win2k/XP/2k3. I'm really not thinking of 95/98/Me, if those are hosed just wipe it clean and move to XP home for $99-199

    Run HiJackthis and look for gremlins. This tool really requires an eye for what is supposed to be there, but pay special attention to startup objects and BHOs(Browser Helper Objects aka evil Internet Explorer plugins)

    Add/Remove programs. Go through it with the client. Anything they don't recognize, or know they don't need, ditch. This can be risky, since people forget, but compared to a reinstall . . .

    Now for the real manual part . . .

    Run lspfix and check for foreign entries. There are normally 2-4 LSP's present. I usually only do this if there are persistent network failures.

    Check Hosts file at c:\winnt(windows)\system32\drivers\etc\hosts There really should only be one entry in here, for 127.0.0.1 localhost. You may have already checked this with hijackthis

    Browse to c:\winnt(windows). Sort by date. On a default install, the file modify dates are going to be a long time ago. If you see anything from within the last few months, get suspicious. Ignore log/text files, but don't ignore those without an extension. Do the same for c:\winnt(windows)\system32 This can be a bit trickier, there are way more files in system32 than winnt(windows), but the same rule generally applies. Anything from the last 3-6 months is suspicious.

    Do the same for c:\program files Delete any empty folders that your previous uninstall didn't remove. You should have an idea what is supposed to be here, after doing Add/Remove programs, so hack and slash the folders that you don't think belong.

    In one of these deleting sprees you are sure to find something bad that won't let itself be deleted, usually a .dll that is registered and can't be removed. Never fear! Write down the .d

  10. Re: 40 mothers agree: Cleaning Windows is a PITA by http · · Score: 3, Informative

    You cannot clean a compromised system with tools running within that system, even in Safe Mode. That's like asking your mayor if s/he's been bribed or not and expecting an honest answer just because the question has been posed during a public council meeting. Wipe, and install from scratch. I would count those ~2 hours as lost in the sense that the system may not have been fixed; you'd probably have been better off watching a funny movie with kith and kin.
    Try googling rootkit. *nix has been around ~35 years, and not with a perfect security record. *nix admins hae been dealing with breaches for a long time. While the *nix mindset has come up with clever tricks to detect rootkits I have yet to hear anyone sucessfully defend cleaning any system from within itself. The problem with this approach has nothing to do with *nix and applies across multiple platforms. Because the system is compromised, you can't trust ANYTHING the system tells you about itself, or any tools that use the system to gather information about the system.
    I'm hard pressed to imagine an operating system where this would not be the case, but perhaps others would enlighten me.

    --
    If opportunity came disguised as temptation, one knock would be enough.
    3^2 * 67^1 * 977^1
  11. Re: 40 mothers agree: Cleaning Windows is a PITA by homesteader · · Score: 2, Informative

    I fully agree. My home network is made up of 3 OS X machines and one windows box for when necessary. With OS X, I could actually agree that the best fix for a compromised machine(were it to happen) would be a reinstall, since there's nothing user specific in the System directory anyway.