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Kurt Cagle's OpenSVG Keynote

Metaphorically writes "Kurt Cagle has posted a summary of his keynote speech from the SVG Open 2005. Inspiring for an SVG enthusiast, informative for any geek. He covers a lot of ground on XML and the next generation of GUI. It connects a lot of technologies that people might otherwise not totally grasp. If you haven't been following the development of XForms, E4X, SVG and XAML then this is a great way to catch up."

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  1. Why SVG Matters by mpapet · · Score: 1, Interesting

    1. Postscript is not as open a license as svg.
    2. I believe there's still a postscript tax for printers that really render postscript. (as opposed to emulation) I know I would like to see that go away. SVG is the way to make Postscript go away.
    3. Imagine a desktop/web page that renders itself by percentages. You could effectively write one thing that renders very well on a desktop, PDA, phone, or other mobile devices.

    There are other reasons, but this technology matters a whole lot when it comes to making a pretty OSS/DTP/Web environment.

    That IE currently doesn't render SVG's and Adobe doesn't promote it should be a clue that both companies would rather keep profiting from their proprietary ways.

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  2. SVG, best way to draw with perl by Soong · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I had some data, I wanted to lay it out graphically, a little perl script to transform it and *poof!* there it was!

    Although, batik is a little bit slow. Hmpf. The Adobe plugin is nice though.

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  3. Re:There isn't a single complete SVG viewer anywhe by leighklotz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    > It seems to me that any W3C standard needs a complete and free reference implementation before it should be ratified as a W3C standard.

    XForms had as exit criteria for becoming a recommendation one complete and two interoperable implementations . One of the complete implementations that served to meet this goal was X-Smiles, a GPL implementation of XForms (and co-indcidentally SVG, XHTML 1.0, CSS of various levels, SMIL, etc.).

    The Mozilla XForms project also aims to provide a complete XForms 1.0 implementation under the Mozilla license, and it's quite far along, and is included as an XPI with each nightly build. The last Linux build I looked at was a 141KB, and about 200KB for Windows, and is a single-click install, just like the bugreport tool.

  4. Re:Que? No Explaino! by ajs · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The logo at the top of your screen is here: http://images.slashdot.org/title.gif.

    It is 3473 bytes. As an SVG, it would be something like this (really awful, off the cuff) example: http://www.ajs.com/~ajs/slashdot.svg which is 3255 bytes uncompressed and I'm sure that that's wasteful in several ways because I'm an SVG newbie. Given compressed HTTP bodies by default, the SVG would save Slashot quite a bit in bandwidth every month.

    SVG is a lot smaller than you think....

    Better, your browser could do the right thing and let you select that text, even though it's rendered as pretty graphics. Accessibility software could READ the text to you (HUGE WIN). etc.

  5. Re:How to get rich from XML... by kwoff · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If only Reed and Kellogg had known about XML in the 19th century.... :)