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Congress to Overhaul Patent Law

karvind writes "According to story at law.com, 'lawmakers in Washington are considering changes to the patent code that would bring U.S. law closer to intellectual property standards in the rest of the industrialized world.' The stated result of Patent Reform Act of 2005, HR 2795 is supposed to make the system work 'more efficiently' and be 'less prone to litigation.'"

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  1. Money by Seumas · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So if you can't afford $30,000 in patent and lawyer fees, you bette not bother coming up with any ideas?

    And even if you do, your lawyer better handle it faster than the lawyer for a multi-billion dollar multi-national with 100,000 employees and more resources than most nations?

    Yeah. This totally seems fair and entirely within the spirit intended by the originators of the system. *cough*

  2. A good attempt, but the devil is in the details by captainktainer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I like the idea in general, but there are some things that need addressing:

    1) How will the system handle cases where an idea is stolen from an employee by a corporation or by another party?
    2) Because of the implementation of method patents, how will the USPTO handle prior art for business or coding methods?
    3) Will the bill also put the USPTO fees in a lockbox to stop patent examiner losses?
    4) What little abuses and other nastiness is hidden within the bill?

  3. Crazy idea: Dissolve the patent system... by pennystinker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Really, I mean this as an honest-to-goodness suggestion, not as flaimbait. Of course it will never happen, but spend a few minutes thinking about it, for a real SANITY check.

    For starters: The patent system was supposed to originally protect the individual inventor. Those days are LONG past!

    Anyone who thinks that the lack of a patent system would mean no more viable businesses is simply not applying their imagination. It would truly create an even playing field. YES businesses would need to change, but that does not mean that there would be no more drugs, or software, or whatever your version of "the sky would fall" is. All of these things would continue but the WAY they would continue would be completely different. For me I would like access to practically free prescription drugs.

    Unfortunately, most who read this "crazy idea" will not "get it", but I'm putting it out there anyway.

  4. Re:I've got a better idea.... by einhverfr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Patents are supposed to encourage innovation, but they are now used mostly in negative ways to block and control innovation.

    Wrong. Patents were supposed to encourage disclosure of innovation so that others can build on it. A blanket "encourage innovation" idea has been used to argue that it should provide control for people to make a lot of money which was not the goal.

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  5. as usual, uninformed and arrogant flaming by cahiha · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The primary principles of patent reform are switching the U.S. system from "first to invent" to "first to file" by replacing legal challenges to patents with a more administrative challenge process, and by practically eliminating injunctions through which a patent holder forces an infringer to stop using his intellectual property.

    Much of the rest of the world already uses "first to file" patent systems. Of course, much of the rest of the world also ignores or gleefully violates patent law. "First to file" gives the advantage to any organization that has a good administrative system in place. Absent-minded inventors lose in this system, which also encourages patenting anything and everything just in case.


    First of all, "the rest of the world" has had strong patent protection a lot longer than the US; US companies were infamous for flaunting patents.

    Now, as for "first to invent", that's just bad policy. The patent system is supposed to encourage disclosure of inventions; if you don't disclose, you shouldn't get patent protection. But "first to invent" lets people sit on their ideas without disclosing them, and then sue people who actually went through the trouble of getting a patent. That just plain sucks.

    It's just my opinion, but "first to file" looks like a good way to screw small inventors, of which I know quite a few.

    Small inventors are already screwed under the current system; first to invent may help small inventors a little bit in a few cases, but it's a band aid on severed artery. In fact, you can bet that companies are already gaming the system with it, and that it's only going to get worse.

    If we want to help small inventors (and I'm all for that, being one myself), we need to rethink fundamentally what we want patents to do and what we want patents to be. But a good first step is to make patent law more rational, and this bill seems to do that.
  6. Re:I sure hope not by ezweave · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Whether "first to file" or "first to invent" is better is not exactly the problem as much as it is the wording of the "Prior-Art" section of TFA.

    Because of the wording (ex: "the claimed invention was patented, described in a printed publication, or otherwise publicly known") you aren't really doing anymore than making bad patents more ironclad.

    For example, if I were to invent a new type of object banking (for a distributed system, a decentralized version of something like CORBA... if that makes any sense to you) and then proceed to use it in an application, I would have to have either patented it first or published in some type of journal (ACM, IEEE, etc). Uh... problem there professor! Half of the "software patents" are just on things that the inventor never thought to patent. He may have been first but it seemed like an obvious thing. If you don't think that is the case, then ask yourself "How does Amazon have a patent on one click shopping?" Then some company [cough] Kodak [cough] (read the Sun case here) buys the patent and gets rights to my product (so I have to pay them).

    This introduces a sort of stranglehold on innovation because I can't just make something, I have to wade through thousands of patents to see if one matches my idea, and if not, patent it! Due to the flexible nature of software design, software patents hurt innovation and ultimately the United States as a whole. I don't think they need to be abolished (software patents), but if you are going to offer them, you need to be sure that they are worth it! Perhaps that is the flaw of patent law in general, failed engineers who become patent lawyers miss the obvious differences...

    Politicans are ruining the U.S:

    1. Sell souls to corporations.
    2. ???
    3. Profit
  7. One condition by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'll take first-to-file with one condition: if anything the patentholder claims infringes on their patent can be shown to have been described either to patentholder or in public prior to the patent's filing date, the patent's automatically invalidated. If the patent application disclosed the prior description, only the claims alleged to have been infringed are invalidated. If the patent application failed to disclose the prior description, it's considered evidence of bad faith and the patent's invalidated in it's entirety (but remains on the record and counts as description for purposes of other patents).

    I'd also add a patent filter process. The end result (not the methods) described in the patent is presented to a randomly-selected half-dozen or so people competent in the field. They get 5 working days to come up with ways to achieve that end result. If any of them come up with the method described in the patent, without having seen the patent's description of the method, the patent is denied on the grounds of obviousness.

  8. Abolishing corporate ownership of patents... by ZenShadow · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A lot has been said here and elsewhere about the idea of taking away the rights of "imaginary people" (aka Corporations) to own patents. I like this idea, but it also doesn't really work out (Those imaginary people are, after all, just slaves to the real people who own them!).

    This got me to thinking about the number of real, honest to gosh inventors that get screwed by big Corporations. If you work for a Corporation, you typically sign away all of your rights to invented technologies to that corporation (at least, when they're invented on company time).

    So here's an interesting proposal, and y'all can debate it at will:

    * As stated, remove the ability for Corporations to hold patents.

    * Allow individuals to file patents on things they've invented while working for a Corporation (don't flip out just yet, I'm not trying to screw the Corporations, either!).

    * In exchange for the above right to file for the individual, they MUST assign perpetual, free-and-clear USE RIGHTS to the Corporation. These rights, however, are non-exclusive: the actual inventor of said technology may license the technology to anyone else he or she chooses, absent a specific signed contract stating otherwise. By law, the contract must specifically mention the patent number involved.

    * Make it illegal for the above mentioned specific contract to be a condition of employment in any way, shape, or form.

    The end result that I'm trying for here is simple: individuals invent things. The company can use them. But if the Company wants exclusive rights to the intellectual property that said individual developed, they must PAY FAIRLY FOR IT.

    I think this would have the following effects:
          * Eliminate corporate patent abuse, as they can no longer hold patents.
          * Transform corporate IP litigation into much simpler Contract/License litigation.
          * Compensate brilliant employees fairly for their work, thus better distributing wealth where it belongs.

    There are (obviously) some potential issues with such a system that would have to be dealt with, but this is just my dinnertime brainstorm presented as text.

    Have at it, flame me if you must. :-)

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    [reading this through, I wonder if maybe we just need to prevent corporations from FILING patents, and still allow them to OWN the patents. Then they can just purchase them from the actual inentor...]

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  9. Re:I've got a better idea.... by zenyu · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Patents were supposed to encourage disclosure of innovation so that others can build on it.

    Ummm... to build on something, you first need to use said something. But using it means infringing on the patent... which means building on it is either a losing proposition, or an impossibility... at least for 20 years.

    Mind explaining what I'm missing here, please?


    Patents were originally a means of rewarding favors by a despot. The despots used to take land from people who didn't have the power to resist the theft and give it to those people who did something for him. But once all the land had been given to his warlords he needed something else to give to these people. The idea of granting monopolies on the import or manufacture of stables such as salt then occured to one of these despots and the patent was born. Later when patents were choking the economy, the warlords banded together and forced the despot to limit their granting of patents to goods that were new to commerce and patent legislation was born. When the insurgency in the English colonies wrestled power away from the government and won their independence, the capitalist faction in the new power structure couldn't get patents eliminated completely but won the language in the U.S. constitution today. They believed by restricting patents to those things that would encourage innovation and limit the time a patent could be granted for it would eliminate the threat of patents to the free market. They were wrong, the 'encourage innovation' language has been considered so vague by the courts that they have left it up to the federal legislature to interpret the law. Of course this means that the law is completely meaningless. Combined with the high level of corruption in the U.S. legislative and executive branches this results in laws by and for the patent grantees; essentially the economic leaches are writing the law to maximize their ability to extract every last drop of blood from the productive industries.