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Yellow Dog Linux Finds New PPC Hardware Vendor

inditek writes "C|Net's News.com reports that Terrasoft Solutions, the vendor that sells and contributes to the development of Yellow Dog Linux has found, and continues to look for, some hardware alternatives based around the PowerPC now that Apple is moving to Intel chips. They say Apple's move makes for a good opportunity and more open space for a chip they think has a lot of life left in it." team99parody also writes "This is great news for customers like the US Navy who rely on Linux-on-PowerPC for important tasks like sonar imaging systems."

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  1. pegasos by larry+bagina · · Score: 4, Informative

    Pegasos sells non macintosh, linux-based PPC machines. At least, they would if they weren't currently out of stock.

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  2. Re:It's Surprising by pkb · · Score: 5, Informative

    AltiVec is big in military applications. Sonar, radar and such are imaging problems at heart.

  3. Re:The battle rages on. by Bastian · · Score: 4, Informative

    So was Apples move speculative or desperate?

    Probably more on the desperate side. Laptops are now slightly more than 50% of the market. I don't have any numbers, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's even more for Macs, where you don't get people buying big gaming desktops and the cheapest desktop isn't less than half the price of the cheapest laptop.

    The G5 is power-hungry, hot, and decidedly not suitable for mobile and low-power applications. It probably never will be, given how little pull Apple has with CPU manufacturers. And the G4 is more than ready for retirement.

    Academic arguments on the relative advantages of PPC and x86 just don't play into the issue. If Apple wants to continue to sell computers, they really have no choice but to jump ship on PPC.

  4. Plug plug plug by NekoXP · · Score: 5, Informative

    We finally get on Slashdot and nobody mentions the bloody company name!

    ARGH! :)

    http://www.genesi.lu/

    Neko

  5. Re:It's Surprising by dj245 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Bingo. A professor of mine (I'm studying marine enginering) once told a tale of designing a navy destroyer. Among other things, the anchor windlass turned out to be bigger than the manufacturer had initally said (due to a communications mishap) so they had to bubble the deck, an ugly and undesirable feature of a multi-million (billion?) dollar vessel.

    In addition, the radar set they ended up using (because of the required output) put out so much waste heat into the radio room that a bigger AC unit had to be installed in that space than initially designed, but there wasn't anywhere to put it so they stole ceiling space and made the room 5 feet tall.

    It could have easilly gone the other way and they could have searched out a better radio from an obscure manufacturer (Transmeta, if they made radios...)

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  6. Re:navy by kinema · · Score: 4, Informative
    It's working.

    I would say that it has more to do with the fact that the system designers looked at the availiable COTS CPUs and decided that the PowerPC was better suited to the task. Most likely the PowerPC's SIMD/vector unit (AltiVec) was superior to the offerings of other similar processors namely Intel's SSEn on the Pentium IV.

    After the choice was made to go with the PowerPC/AltiVec processor piles and piles of hand optimized ASM code was created by some very well funded geeks to perform what I'm sure is an ultra high bandwidth and sample rate siganl processing system.

  7. Re:Yellow Dog versus Debian? by Arker · · Score: 3, Informative

    I believe that Debian is ported to the PPC. How does Yellow Dog compare to Debian as a distribution? If I could use Yellow Dog on the x86 would I have a reason to use it instead of Debian?

    No.

    Yellow Dog is based on Redhat. Debian is... Debian. Score one for Debian.

    Yellow Dog comes from a single company that will sell you a support contract. Debian is an open standard, if you need a support contract you can choose from several competitors, and if the one you choose initially gives you any problems, you can dump them and move to another without having to change your software. Score two for Debian.

    Debian supports nearly as many platforms as NetBSD, meaning that you can run a very heterogenous environment, PPC here, X86 there, ARM over in that corner, SPARC behind that wall there... and have the same tools, use the same methods to administer each one, regardless of platform. Yellow Dog runs on PPC, so if you have anything else in your environment, you'll have to learn to admin Yellow Dog, plus something else. Score three for Debian.

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  8. Re:Continuing PPC Support by confused+one · · Score: 3, Informative
    for every one desktop PC made, there are over 10 embedded processors sold. PowerPC (whether it be IBM or Freescale) is a major player in embedded hardware. x86 just doesn't see that much use in embedded applications.

    The company I work for builds instrumentation -- we use PIC or ARM for the low end; and, PowerPC for the high end. It's anecdotal, but representative...