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X-15 Pilots Finally Get Astronaut Wings

Ginnungagap42 writes "NASA has a story about pilots Bill Dana, John McKay and Joe Walker finally receiving their astronauts wings for their work in the X-15 program back in the 1960's. Astronauts wings were awarded to the USAF personnel in the 1960's, but not to the civilian NASA pilots until now. The X-15 program was an important testbed for hypersonic flight. It's nice that all the pilots who flew high and fast are finally being recognized."

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  1. Tom Wolfe mentioned this by Mark+of+THE+CITY · · Score: 5, Informative

    In "The Right Stuff," Wolfe mentioned that the NASA X-15 pilots didn't qualify for astronaut wings. Supposedly, a party was held for one of them after his qualifying flight. He was a pair of cardboard wings labelled "Asstronaut."

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  2. joe walker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    just FYI I dont know about the first two test pilots but joe walker died in a jet crash in like the late 60's or early 70's. In fact my middle schools name was joe walker in honor of his life since he died while the school was being built or just after it was built (sorry its been a long time since middle school heh). It was pretty cool because I was actually doing a research project on him for the school website and I actually remember we found an old 8mm in the school attic of 'this is your life... joe walker'

  3. NASA Page for X-15 by kevin_conaway · · Score: 1, Informative

    Here is the NASA page that contains background info on the X-15 for anyone interested.

    1. Re:NASA Page for X-15 by PWatson · · Score: 5, Informative

      Uhh, the link seems to be missing. Therefore, here are the NASA and Wikipedia links to X-15 articles for your reading enjoyment.

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  4. Re:Space Ship One Virgin: Retraction by Trick · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, whaddayaknow? CNN's wording was a bit strange on that one. I checked to see if I was making an ass out of myself, and I was. The two SpaceShip One pilots *did* receive astronaut wings.

    Yummy. Foot.

  5. Re:Space Ship One Virgin by Richard_at_work · · Score: 2, Informative
    No, they were actually presented to both the SS1 pilots after the flights. I distinctly remember a photo of Melville being presented his by a FAA representative.

    From the FAA:

    The FAA's Associate Administrator, Patti Grace Smith, presented Mr. Melville with the first FAA-issued commercial astronaut wings. A few short months later, on October 4 th, I had the privilege of awarding the next set of wings to Astronaut Brian Binnie.
  6. Re:Congrats! by databyss · · Score: 2, Informative

    Those guys were awarded their wings from the FAA, not NASA.

    Whole different story there.

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  7. Re:Just like space ship one by Tango42 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The highest X-15 was 108km, SpaceShipOne reached 112km... 112>108 last time I checked.

  8. It's a shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Fastest Man On Earth(TM) couldn't be here to accept his wings (rightfully deserved at that).

    He flew the X-15 at 7,274 KM/hr, or Mach 6.7 to get some real grasp on that speed, as well as at an altitude greater than 50 miles, or 80 KM.

    The X-15 crew had to complete the astronaut training curriculum in order to fly the X-15, but that's beside the qualification required to recieve an Astronaut Wing, that being flying in space at an altitude greater than 50 miles, or 80 KM.

    Highlight of his X-15 (stolen from wikipedia):
    He had more than his share of eventful flights in the X-15. While climbing through 107,000 feet at Mach 4.17 on June 29, 1967, he suffered a total electrical failure and all onboard systems shutdown. After arching over at 173,000 feet, he calmly set up a visual approach and, resorting to old-fashioned "seat-of-the-pants" flying, he glided down to a safe emergency landing at Mud Lake, Nevada. For his remarkable feat of airmanship that day, he earned a Distinguished Flying Cross.

    On October 3, 1967, Knight set a world aircraft speed record by piloting the X-15A-2 to 4,520 miles per hour (Mach 6.7) -- a record that still stands today. During 16 flights in the aircraft, Knight also became one of only five pilots to earn their astronaut's wings by flying an airplane in space, reaching an altitude of 280,500 feet.

    1. Re:It's a shame by Tiger4 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Pete Knight was kind of an a$$hole in other aspects of life [see below], but he was a heck of a pilot. I saw him at the 50th anniversary of the Air Force and 50th anniversary of breaking the sound barrier celebration at Edwards in October 1997. His record flight was in October 1967, making it the 30th anniversary. I asked him about it. He said the celebration organizers didn't think it was significant enough to recognize at the same event. I definitely felt kind of bad for him at that point. It isn't easy flying an aircraft that is trying to melt.

      WRT the other aspects, Knight went into local politics and eventually went to the California state Senate. He sided with the conservative Republicans, but was mean even by their standards. At one point he was caught handling out flyers with a "funny" poem about wetback Mexican women on the Senate floor. Another time he sponsored some anti-gay legislation. It passed, but ended up being made totally toothless in practice.

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  9. Re:Today on Oxymoron Theatre: by Fishstick · · Score: 2, Informative

    Do you still 'dial' a phone number (or wait for the 'dial tone' first)? When what the last time (if ever) you used a rotarty dial telephone?

    I'm sure there a are lots of other/better examples, but the point is once a word or phrase gets some level of common use it gains a certain amount of social inertia. Even though the technology changes and the term is log obsolete, it is hard to think of substituting a different word.

    I can't ever imagine saying:

    "Hold on while I touch-tone his cell."

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  10. Re:Just like space ship one by Rei · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not like it matters. 90% of the energy of a LEO orbit is horizontal, not vertical. SS1's up-and-down flight record belies the fact that it had almost no orbital energy. X-15 went 2/7ths of the necessary velocity for orbit, on 1950s tech.

    Heck, even the V-2 had a greater payload (probably about twice SS1's cockpit, at 1000 kg) twice the delta-V, compared to SS1. And we're talking about the birth of modern rocketry there.

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  11. Re:A little OT: by chl · · Score: 4, Informative
    Funny stories. Just a little nitpick: 60000ft would be flight level (FL) 600. The lowest flight level is FL180, which is at a pressure altitude of 18000ft, which in standard atmospheric conditions is 18000ft above sea level. Pressure altitude is the altitude inferred from the ambient pressure. It coincides with the real altitude only at standard atmospheric conditions, i.e. no high, no lows, no hot or cold day.

    This means that, if pressure or temperature are lower than standard, the flight levels come down accordingly, so FL180 could actually be *below* 17500ft. Consequently, FL180 to FL185 are not used on those days.

    Below 18000ft, pressure altitude is usually corrected for non-standard pressure, and that corrected value is shown on the altimeter. This makes it easier to find your altitude above ground level, which is important for clearing obstacles and landing at airports, whose elevations are given in "real" ft above mean sea level. At higher altitudes, these ground problems are not so relevant, and the flight level scale is used.

    chl

  12. Re:Today on Oxymoron Theatre: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I remember talking to Bill Dana in 1980's (am I getting that old? ;) ) at Edwards AFB when I was getting into Test Pilot School and he saying that he would like to have them but remembering Joe Walker to died in the F-106 crash and John McKay which died of liver failure from the an X-15 crash he would have like to have them get it also.
    But it is better late than never.