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Everyone Is A Hacker In Training

An anonymous reader writes "Michal Zalewski was recently interviewed by O'Reilly's Onlamp. During the interview, he stated a belief that hacking is a state of mind. From the article: 'I don't think that (good) hackers have any special, hardwired mental abilities or specific personality traits, and I do believe you can easily learn to think like a hacker, even when you come from a different background.'" The interview goes on to discuss the overall need for better security in protocols and communications.

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  1. Can you really hack? by mejesster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This sounds absurd. A hacker isn't a mentality, it's a set of actions. I may think like a mass murderer, but until I do it, it doesn't mean much, does it?

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    1. Re:Can you really hack? by baadger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Depends on your chosen definition of hacker.

      "Hacker is a slang term for a technically sophisticated computer user who enjoys exploring computer systems and programs, sometimes to the point of obsession."

      "A person who delves into software more deeply than an average PC user...."

      "Hacker is a term used to describe different types of computer experts.."

      I don't see how any of these require any specific set of actions.

    2. Re:Can you really hack? by Chexum · · Score: 4, Insightful
      A hacker isn't a mentality, it's a set of actions.

      Ugh. When someone parked before the company tries to guess the root password of our systems, or finding ways around not knowing it is bad; how is this different purely from the actions of the system administrator trying to set a new password when another privileged user changed it to something (s)he doesn't remember now?

      Apart from the forever question posed by any use of the word "hacker", this article is just another making all of us remember that "hacking" is mostly intensive tinkering with something interesting, challenging. Whatever.

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    3. Re:Can you really hack? by Metteyya · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wow. Another one confusing hackers with crackers - that's pretty common. But come on, on Slashdot? WTF happened to hacker community that this site consisted of?

  2. The Zen of Hacking by SuperDuG · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Okay, I'm not trying to burst everyone's bubble here, but there is no kung-fu hacking style. I guess the best metaphor I can come up with here is hacking is like martial arts. Anyone can turn on a computer and run a program, just like anyone can punch things.

    There is no skill involved in hitting things, just as there is no skill involved in running a "script". However even with a script and a punch you can still bring harm.

    With training you can learn how and where to hit someone to inflict pain, debilitate them, or kill them. Just like anyone with an iota of programming knowledge can shutdown a server, destroy the data on it, or bring down entire networks.

    Like martial arts, thankfully those that do know how to kill someone with their hands and those that do know how to do malicious things with a computer, do not do them. Anyone can write a virus, and knowing programming I know that you could make a very nasty virus to do very nasty things.

    But that doesn't happen. Usually what happens is those who might know the tools of the trade or a few moves don't have the discipline. They lack the ability to know that "you can" is different than "you should".

    However, there is no kung-fu quality of knowing how to "hack". There is a quality to knowing how a computer works, how they can be exploited, and how they can be repaired. It's the knowledge of computers that will get a person to a point in which they can contribute to the community, sometimes make money, and sometimes just get noticed.

    Then there's the smeg-heads who are the l33tz0r hax0rts d00dz that ... don't get it.

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  3. Intensity over Extensity by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I agree that it's not always something specifically mental in that some people simply can do it and some simply can't (but some do have more natural talent). I disagree about personality traits.

    I think good hackers tend to be obessive about what they hack - meaning that they eat, drink, and sleep the subject they are good at hacking at.

    A lot of people these days tend to try to learn (too) many things and turn out to be more of a jack of all trades than an expert in a single subject (thinking of all those programmers who have to learn a new language everyother week) or simply can't concentrate on any one thing for longer than 5 minutes at a time.

    This is my issue with college - many of which try to teach a wide variety of subject to a student that really only wants a specific degree (say in Math or Science related) - studies have shown that people tend to remember less than 15-20% of what they learned in school/college several years after attending so why force something that will only be forgotten later for lack of interest?

    Genius - 1% inspiration, 99% perspiration. Morale: Prize Intensity over Extensity.

    A genius that probably can't be replicated in everybody is a renaissance man who can excel in multiple non-related subjects - like Leonardo Davinci. But that still took some type of concentrated obsession.

  4. Use of the word....... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hacking is an art.... You don't just wake up one morning calling yourself a hacker. It takes years upon years to even learn the necessary skills. And "hacker" is a word that other people call you after you have proven yourself knowledgible in certain areas.

    Not everyone can have the title hacker, its a name that you earn because you are very good in your line of work, not because your a wannabee and want to be called a cool name. Of course they all start out as wannabees anyway, but many never go through with their quest for knowledge and understanding.

    And for you media-freaks out there, hacker does not mean breaking into another person/business's computer unauthorized, that would be a cracker. The media has tainted the word into something unwanted and looked down upon when it really means something very good (who doesnt like the quest for knowledge?).

  5. IMHO by Skiron · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can see what means, but as always, it comes out wrong.

    I know for a fact there are (intelligent) people that no matter HOW hard they try, they cannot program - it is just literally impossible for them, they just cannot grasp the concept. Maybe this is to do with the way some people's mind works or not, I don't know, but it has something to do with it.

    Now to the 'hacker' bit. Anybody that can/does understand programming/concept is only one step away from being a 'hacker' (not a _cracker_ !). It is the next step after learning the base, and 'hacking' is the logical next step to learn more.

    But as I said, not everybody has the ability, willing or unwillingly.

  6. Re:I was a hacker went they weren't mainsream.. by Jekler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What makes you think that because you did something first means your efforts were any more sincere, valid, or superior to the efforts of the mainstream?

    We had candles before we had lightbulbs, but I see you've hopped on the Electricity Bandwagon with the rest of us. Tool.

  7. It's About Problem Solving by tjasond · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Even though he states that (good) hackers have any special, hardwired mental abilities, I disagree.

    From the article: What I wanted to achieve is to show how to think creatively and see problems that go beyond textbook examples

    This is exactly what I've always thought good hacking was all about - creative problem solving. I agree that good hackers go beyond a textbook or class work in order to solve problems, but I also think this is an ability that some have and others just don't. Good problem solvers can be found way beyond IT. It's the same as people that are considered good "handymen", for lack of a better term. Give them a problem, be it move some heavy furniture or fix something that's broken and they'll come up with a creative solution, even though it initially looked impossible to solve. I'll even bet that some hackers are considered good "handymen" around their neighborhood.