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BitTorrent's Loss is eDonkey's Gain?
MrAndrews writes "According to this BBC article, users in South Korea, Italy, Germany and Spain are using BitTorrent less frequently these days, after lawsuits by the movie industry. However: "While the use of BitTorrent has fallen, file sharers have moved to an alternative network called eDonkey". "
It *is* like whack-a-mole, isn't it?
Anyway, I thought the algorithm of the moment was "If it's popular, torrent it, use emule if it's rare (and be prepared for it to take forever.)'
I would hardly call being the #1 filesharing network a "gain", with the ??AA's being all lawsuity.
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-Hoban Washburn
Let me get this straight - these people are moving ON to edonkey/emule? Most people who do filesharing started off on eDonkey and then switched to Bittorrent for the speeds it offered.
It doesn't matter if people move from Kazaa to BitTorrent to eDonkey, as the article mentions, because the internet traffic still ends up in the same place. At some point, the traffic has to go from your computer to another computer via an ISP or other such service (obviously assuming it's not a LAN). The MPAA/RIAA has taken to issuing subpoena's to ISPs, so even if eDonkey is "decentralized" the users can still get caught. I don't see what the point is, really. I mean, seriously... if the BBC is posting about it, do you think the over-priced greedy hawk lawyers of the RIAA/MPAA are going to ignore it?
Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.
Thats brave! I'd just buy the flippin cd's rather than risk a $15,000 fine!
Actually I have, you presumptuous jackass. When they release;
- Seasons 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 of Frasier;
- The Daily Show complete run from 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005;
- Scrubs seasons 2, 3 and 4;
- The West Wing seasons 5 and 6;
- the entire run of Top Gear;
- the entire run of The Wonder Years;
- the entire run of Parker Lewis Can't Lose;
- not to mention about a dozen Japanese dorama series
on DVD, then be sure to let me know; I'll buy them.
to stop illegal downloading is to uninvent the wheel. Make ANY device that can digitize analog data illegal unless they are properly licensed by a *IAA authorized service provider. No home movies. No home recording, unless it is to analog media. In a sense make digitzers like stills. Anyone can make Whisky, its easy, unless the equipment to do so is illegal.
I have little sympathy for the *IAA. Do you think they gave us CD/DVDs because they gave us better quality, or because they increased profit? The fact that they were too miopic to realise that the same technologies that were dropping their bottom line could enable consumers to replace them is karmic.
The creators of optical media suing bittorrent et al, is like the great ship builders suing boeing and airbus. It shouldn't be allowed to happen. Artists need to stop looking for recording contracts and start looking for marketting contracts. You can still make money in popular arts, its just you can't expect to make money by selling digital facsimilies of that art.
Scared of flying, pointy things snce 1979!
107 is the four factor test. Again, I'm not a legal genious, so I'll refer generously to Stanford and the EFF for help in this matter.
1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
Personal use is clearly non-commercial.
2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
In this case, the work is creative which is a point for their side.
3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
In my case, it's a whole copy of the work, another point for their side, however it's a reduced quality copy which is a point for my side.
4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
With Blockbuster's particular business model, I've already demonstrated it's actually MORE profitable for them to have me rent a movie rip it in 20 minutes and return it. As for future sales loss, that's not relevant to this argument because of a crucial factor - I delete them after I've watched them. The Supreme Court (Universal City Studios v. Sony Corp., 464 U.S. 417 (1984)) ruled that a time shifted copy does not deprive them of revenue, and that was for a broadcast, not even a paid rental as in my case. I firmly believe that the courts would uphold my arguement that I rented the media that it's on but bought a license to watch the movie. In fact, Blockbuster's terms and conditions does not stipulate how many times you may watch a movie that you've rented, it merely stipulates how long you can keep the media. I've time-shifted the right to watch the movie until after the media is returned, but that doesn't negate my right to watch it, and the Supreme Court upheld my right to time shift it.
Never confuse volume with power.
- Find some kind of alternate method of digital rights management (Street_Performer_Protocol is an example)
- Infringe upon people's rights to memory and expression (unjust, I'm willing to argue, but it's the route we're currently walking down)
- Some other option?
Either way, information that can be expressed as bits can be copied. We're going to have to address this somehow.Much to the hapiness of regular, responsible emule users, people like you will never have a satisfactory experience of the ed2k-kad network.
You are a leecher.
You entire posting, informative as it is, it is a cookbook for leechers. You don't like bittorrent because you have to seed. Too bad for you. You don't like emule because it's slow. Has it ever occured to you that its slow because people like you refuse to share and you get little credits? You like Gnutella because it allows you leech freely. And you like messing up the usenet by abusing any part of the word "privilege" that it used it be.
I am glad you don't use ed2k. Just be aware that it works perfectly for those who contribute and those who share.