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Looking for Portable MPI I/O Implementation?

rikt writes "I am trying to implement MPI I/O for our CFD product. I am facing a problem with the portability of the generated data files. MPI2 interface describes a way to achieve this either by using 'external32' or user defined data representations. The problem is that ROMIO, the most widely available MPI I/O implementation, has not implemented support for any data representation other than 'native'. Do you know of any MPI I/O implementation that supports this, and is available on various platforms? I know IBM and Sun supports this, but I am looking for a solution on Linux and Windows (both 32 & 64 bit) as well."

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  1. Definitions by Godeke · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm a geek who does administration and programming in Windows and Linux realms, am fairly aware of my acronym soup and yet this left me, um, cold. For those who don't feel like doing the research:

    MPI: Message Passing Interface, a standard for parallel processing environment message passing.
    MPI-2: Extended version of MPI.
    MPI-IO: Parallel input/output extensions for MPI, included in MPI-2
    ROMIO: An implementation of these extensions.
    CFD: Computational Fluid Dynamics (a good candidate for parallel processing, thus the interest in the above).

    Of course, the fact I had to look them up means I have no idea about implementations, but at least others won't have to wonder what all that was about.

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  2. If last resort try human-readable text by Krellan · · Score: 3, Informative

    I take it you've aleady read section 7.5 in MPIv2. If you haven't, now's the time!

    Unfortunately, I know of no other MPI I/O implementations, other than ROMIO, that can simply be plugged into an existing MPI stack. You might want to ask around at the new project OpenMPI, a new-from-the-ground-up MPI implementation that is currently in development. I'd be curious to learn the level of MPI I/O support that they claim!

    Assuming you are stuck with a MPI stack that only supports the "native" representation, the problem you face becomes one of data representation in general. As you know, there's bajillions of different ways of storing floating-point numbers, and if you write them to disk, the files will be only valid for exactly that CPU.

    As a last resort, a brute-force solution is to write the numbers as human-readable text, and then parse them in again accoringly. It's a waste of file space, but there's no ambiguity in the datatype representation, and it is very tolerant of floating point differences between machines.

    -1.2345234523452345
    2.345634563456365e+13
    -3.2121212121e-24
    And so on.

    This shouldn't be much of a hotspot in your code, since ideally it would only be done at start, stop, and checkpoint time. Also, if you need paralellism, and don't care about wasted file space or future precision improvements, you could use a fixed-length string for each number (with much padding), thus allowing you to read your numbers random-access instead of sequential.

    Hope this helps!

    Josh

  3. This one's easy. by jd · · Score: 4, Informative
    First, you want to use Open MPI (the latest and greatest MPI implementation) or MPICH (which is not so good, but is solid and widely used, so will be easier to work with for portable I/O packages).


    Now, we move onto the portable I/O. The vast majority of scientific software (which is, in turn, the bulk of MPI-based software) uses the Heirarchical Data Format. There are two versions worthy of mention - HDF5 and Parallel HDF. Both support MPI in operations. Compile HDF5 with MPI support, and you have something that will support platform-independent atomic and compound data types.


    Of all the options, HDF5 (from the NCSA) is the most widely used. I would say that the majority of scientific and distributed software out there that uses platform-independent typing uses HDF. So does the grid computing system Globus. The other platform-independent complex data typing libraries, CDF (from NASA) and NetCDF (from UniData), are rarely used. Indeed, the next generation of NetCDF - version 4 - will be built on top of HDF5. There's a link to the development site and the source code on Freshmeat.


    Less-widely used, but still very significant, is the Transparent Parallel I/O Environment. I am not 100% sure if this supports MPI, it's been a while since I've used it and I never put in the dependencies on Freshmeat for it.


    Depending on what is being done, PETSc may also be worth checking out. This supports MPI-based differential equations.


    Globus can use MPI for communication and then handle the I/O directly. This means you only have to write your interface for one API, not one API per type of operation. Main problem is that Globus has a fairly large footprint, so you might not want to do that unless the project is large enough to warrant that kind of sophistication.

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    1. Re:This one's easy. by Salis · · Score: 2, Informative

      NetCDF is used more by non-computer scientists who need to store lots of data. It has an easier-to-use API. But, HDF5 can do more useful things. When NetCDF uses HDF5 as its underlying format, it'll get the best of both worlds: good API, good data structure.

      When I started a software project about two years ago, I looked at both NetCDF and HDF5 for data formats. I chose NetCDF and have had zero problems (and it's been very easy to the software working nicely). I think using HDF would have added another 6 months of development time.

      In the end, it won't matter: they'll both be equivalent.

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  4. Re:Maybe I am missing something by Krellan · · Score: 3, Informative

    MPI is already very good at converting data between the various computers involved in a parallel MPI program.

    There's almost an absurd number of datatype declaration, conversion, etc. functions in MPI. If you properly set up MPI_Datatype types to hold your data, then the MPI library will be able to handle it all internally. Then, when sending and receiving messages, it will automatically do conversions as needed (between big-endian and little-endian machines, and so on).

    So the problem isn't one of sending/receiving data between machines of differing architecture. The problem is writing this data to a file, and then reading it in again at a later date, possibly on a different machine. This is a harder problem.

    The MPI I/O extensions (part of MPI-2) tried to address this somewhat. There is a file format "external32" in the spec, that was supposed to be universal, with a standard encoding for all datatypes, and so on. However, evidently it was never implemented fully, as I haven't been able to find it.

  5. I second String representation by davecrist · · Score: 3, Informative

    I was going to suggest string representations, too... I am working an MPI project that deals with passing a lot of stuff around and found that the method of structure passing in MPI caused us to have to represent the structure specifically byte-by-byte anyway, so we have just stuck with doing everything as character arrays in specific formats...

    The main benefit for us was that our message passing code became generic and we got the side effect of passing large values between machines without respect for endianess or word size.

    hope that helps,


    dave

  6. Re:Maybe I am missing something by quasi_steller · · Score: 2, Informative

    When I did MPI projects for school I essentially did this when I wanted to send something in a struct. However, as one poster already pointed out, MPI takes care of the conversions between big and little endian. If you have a homogenious network, you'll probably be okay just sending a struct as a buffer. That said, if you want something a little more robust, MPI does have rather extensive user defined datatype creation capabilities.

    I learned a little about these capabilities when I wanted to know how to send a struct over MPI while doing a school project. (I wanted to do things "The Right Way" (TM). ) However, the definition of MPI datatypes seemed a little too in depth for a simple school project so I ended up just sending the struct as a buffer which worked fine. For a project that is a little bigger, and needs to be a little more robust, I would suggest learning how to create MPI datatypes. Funny thing is, when looking up this stuff on Google now, I'm finding better resources on sending structs over MPI than when I had my Parallel class last spring, dern it!

    Google search

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  7. Open MPI by jsquyres · · Score: 2, Informative
    Greetings. I'm one of the developers from Open MPI. We currently include ROMIO (just like everyone else), but we did two important things:
    1. We properly wrapped it such that I/O requests are of type MPI_Request, not MPIO_Request. Hence, you can actually progress IO requests, generalized requests, and point-to-point requests in a single MPI_WAITALL (or MPI_TESTALL, or any of the other variants)
    2. Our MPI-2 IO support is based on a component framework -- so replacing ROMIO is not only easy, it's encouraged! We had always intended ROMIO to be a stopgap soltuon until we could implement "something better" (as yet to be defined). We would love to have someone with expertise in this area to a) help define what a "better" component interface should be (our ROMIO interface is a simple one-to-one function mapping), and b) write one or more components to implement this in a generic and/or proprietary way.
    That's a long way of saying: "E-mail me and let's talk." :-)