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Google Opens Digital Library to EU

Kailash Nadh writes "Google Inc. is asking European book publishers to submit non-English material to its Internet-leading search engine a move that may ease worries about the company's digital library relying too heavily on Anglo-American content. The Google Print undertaking represents a major piece of Google's effort to convert printed material into a digital format so it can be called up from any computing device with an Internet connection. By indexing the material, Google hopes to attract more visitors to its Web site and spawn more searches that generate advertising revenue."

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  1. pm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Google Inc. is asking European book publishers to submit non-English material to its Internet-leading search engine a move that may ease worries about the company's digital library relying too heavily on Anglo-American content.

    Premiere message!

    1. Re:pm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Troll, sure. But it's on topic!

  2. Non English content is awesome! by DanCentury · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If it weren't for the non-English books at my college library (Rutgers), I don't know what I would have done. All the English books were stolen, vandalized, or had pages torn out (partially stolen?).

    Similarly, maybe the foreign language servers will has less traffic and it will be easier to get the info I need.

    I'm glad I can read more than one language.

    1. Re:Non English content is awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I recommend Philip K. Dick books in Finnish. They bend your mind even in English, let alone when read in some weird ogglegoggly language from beyond the Ural mountains.

    2. Re:Non English content is awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Darn... I thought that all the books in other languages would have gone through the new Google Purge...
      http://www.theonion.com/content/node/40076

  3. Why thank you, Captain Obvious! by L.+VeGas · · Score: 4, Funny

    "By indexing the material, Google hopes to attract more visitors to its Web site and spawn more searches that generate advertising revenue.

    I thought they were doing it because they wanted to show off.

    1. Re:Why thank you, Captain Obvious! by Leroy_Brown242 · · Score: 1

      Well, that's #2 on the priority list, just behind making mmoney. :)

    2. Re:Why thank you, Captain Obvious! by Itchy+Rich · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I thought they were doing it because they wanted to show off.

      I expect you're joking, but just in case...

      Given the proportion of the world that speaks languages other than English it'd be a very poor business strategy to limit your service to English-only sources.

  4. Sneaky Google by penguinoid · · Score: 1

    I've heard that some people were complaining about Google indexing copyrighted books. Now this announcement will have many publishers scrambling to give Google their books.

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  5. fact or assumption by Suppafly · · Score: 2, Insightful

    By indexing the material, Google hopes to attract more visitors to its Web site and spawn more searches that generate advertising revenue

    Is that a fact or an assumption?

    1. Re:fact or assumption by PhilHibbs · · Score: 1

      I presume it's commentary. News sites do that occasionally.

    2. Re:fact or assumption by The+Tyrant · · Score: 1

      It seems to me to be common sense.

      Fact: Google is a buisness.
      Fact: Buisnesses exist to make money.
      Fact: Google makes most of its money from advertising.
      Fact: People need to look at (and act (click) upon them) adverts for them to make money.
      Obviousness: Covering more languages allows more people to use the service.
      Obviousness: The more people that use the service, the more adverts they will see, and the more they will click upon. Thus, the more money google with recieve from their clicks.

      Therefore "By indexing the material, Google hopes to attract more visitors to its Web site and spawn more searches that generate advertising revenue"

    3. Re:fact or assumption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      zonk--

    4. Re:fact or assumption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fact: You can't spell, please take note this is how you spell business. Notice that it's 'business' instead of 'buisness'. Kthnx

  6. being a dumb american.. by tont0r · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    who speaks only one language welcome these new non-english material to google in hopes that it makes me feel more dumber-est ever.

  7. You never know by Lifewish · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It might help you learn a few more languages. My experience is that the best way to get relatively fluent in a language is to get a copy of Harry Potter in said language and sit down with a cup of hot choccy and a dictionary.

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    1. Re:You never know by Danuvius · · Score: 1
      My experience is that the best way to get relatively fluent in a language is to get a copy of Harry Potter in said language and sit down with a cup of hot choccy and a dictionary.
      Oh ho ho... that rumbunctious wizard boy... is there anything his adventures are not the perfect solution for? %)
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    2. Re:You never know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It might get loads of mostly grammatically correct material for the next gen Google Translator as well.

    3. Re:You never know by Lifewish · · Score: 1

      Oh ho ho... that rumbunctious wizard boy... is there anything his adventures are not the perfect solution for?

      Degreasing engines. I've tried but believe me, it just doesn't work. It's got the killing braincells part down pat tho.

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  8. This is an original, informative article. by Orrin+Bloquy · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Where is Zonk and what have you done with him??!?!!11cranberries!

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  9. Interesting... by duckumu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It seems like the attitude toward Google is changing a lot. A few years ago I don't think we would have thought Google's motivation would be necessarily to gain massive revenue, but instead to create just a huge database for the public good...

    1. Re:Interesting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because a few years ago, we didn't realise what the question to 9 out of 10 questions is.

  10. Yet another move towards... by Mr.+Sketch · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is yet another move by google to it's new product: Google Purge

  11. A lot of potential for translation by bedroll · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If programmatic translation continues to improve then this could really be something huge. Imagine a huge database with creative works from every culture in whatever language, available to anyone who desires in their native tongue.

    1. Re:A lot of potential for translation by Danuvius · · Score: 1
      Imagine a huge database with creative works from every culture in whatever language, available to anyone who desires in their native tongue.
      Theoretically, this is already true for English speakers. In practice, of course, anglophones continue to read their own native fare supplemented by occasional forrays into foreign territory--but only if some celebrity with little expertise or taste recommends it, or if it will make you part of an in-crowd.

      Greater selection will not heal a culture of ill-literacy (no--not a typo) and cultural isolationism.
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    2. Re:A lot of potential for translation by youta · · Score: 1

      Plus with their learning translators, I would assume that published material is of a substantially higher quality than simply scanning websites.

      It would be easier to avoid summaries/fragments/slang/mistakes/etc...

    3. Re:A lot of potential for translation by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      "Imagine a huge database with creative works from every culture in whatever language available to anyone who desires in their native tongue."

      I fantasize in German. Do people who desire in a foreign tongue not get access?

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    4. Re:A lot of potential for translation by stienman · · Score: 1

      This project will also be tapped (likely) to do the reverse: Improve machine translation.

      Recently Google's machine translation program performed significantly better than attempts made by other MT expert organizations.

      By having high quality texts in their database they can improve their machine translation. By having the same work in different languages they can significantly improve their MT.

      -Adam

  12. Will it last? by Alex+P+Keaton+in+da · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hope that we don't end up getting rid of the hard copies for archival purposes...
    I am not a ginat Rall fan, but he has a good point in this article...
    Cultural Suicide via Digitalization
    Ted Rall
    NEW YORK--Compact discs won't skip. They'll play even if you scratch them. Unless you break them or set them on fire, they'll last forever. That's the sales pitch the recording industry used to convince America to switch from vinyl records to CDs. But, as anyone who owns a hairy dog or cat knows, CDs do skip. And as anyone who uses them to store computer files knows, digital data stored on them eventually vanishes in a mysterious phenomenon called "data rot." "With proper care this Compact Disc will last a lifetime," promised the packaging on the first digital recordings. Now experts wonder whether they'll make it 20 years. Without discussion or debate humanity has committed itself to the wholesale digitalization of its collective cultural and historical information base. Music, movies, manuscripts, everything from letters between presidents to merchants' financial transactions are currently created and stored in strictly digital form--a development that fulfills George Orwell's prophecy that history would become mutable, now with a few keystrokes. Even more terrifying than the likelihood that the digitalization of history will be abused in the service of tyranny is the certainty that we are setting the stage for the greatest loss of knowledge since the destruction of the Royal Library at Alexandria.
    Continued here.... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucru/20050824/cm_ucru/afat eworsethandeath

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    1. Re:Will it last? by JesseMcDonald · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If digital information was stored with the same level of redundancy that "analog" data is stored with, these issues wouldn't exist. In fact, even a low level of redundancy would probably be sufficient to protect against nearly all loss. The "analog" records you refer to can be reconstructed not because they were stored on paper, but because the complete record can be restored from a small fraction of the original, making the paper record much like a simple, but massively redundant, RAID array. With digital records, we can move those portions we care to keep into proper archives before they disappear. If it wasn't illegal to copy the information on those CDs, then with proper care (including periodic transfers to new discs) the information on them really could be preserved forever. The process would be completely lossless and nearly automatic, whereas a paper document (which will still eventually become unreadable, albiet over a much longer period of time) can only be copied by hand, with a much greater (and thus less likely) expenditure of effort. Finally, the information in a paper document is fundamentally symbolic in nature, and thus equivalent to the corresponding digital information. It is not analog, because the information is stored as sequences of a finite number of discrete patterns. The underlying analog medium (the ink and paper, for example) can degrade gradually, but the words themselves are either preserved as written or not. Any symbolic information (including digital) could be stored on the same medium, and would be similarly preserved.

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    2. Re:Will it last? by yEvb0 · · Score: 1
      Finally, the information in a paper document is fundamentally symbolic in nature, and thus equivalent to the corresponding digital information. It is not analog, because the information is stored as sequences of a finite number of discrete patterns.

      This doesn't hold true for music, movies or speech (which are not inherently digital) stored on CD, DVD, or other digital media. Written words, in a way, are a digital representation of speech/language, which falls somewhat between these notions of 'analog' and 'digital'. I won't go into a long philiosophical/linguistic ramble here. I just wanted to point that out.

      Returning to the topic, I think that the voluntary indexing of these is a good thing, but I also hope no one gets the idea destroy real books. Books are cool.

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    3. Re:Will it last? by dvdeug · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I hope that we don't end up getting rid of the hard copies for archival purposes...

      There is one or two copies of many books; one library fire, and they're gone. In many cases, they're virtually gone now; the only way to view the copy is to travel to where the physical copy is and get easily denied permission to view it.

      There is a film that shows a clip from an earlier film, and proclaims that it will be watched for generations. That clip is all that exists of that earlier film.

      There's no chance that any of the modern popular films will disappear completely. It may come down to recovering it from a DivX, but enough people have copies and make backups of those copies, that it won't completely disappear. If the Internet Archive was destroyed, films that formerly existed in few copies would still be on hard drives all over the world, and will be on backups well into the 22cd century.

    4. Re:Will it last? by junkcannibal · · Score: 1

      Why would anyone bother destroying the hard copies? Were scribes and printing publishers in the habit of destroying the originals of the copies they make. The digitization of data is would make it easier to backup data to less mutable and destructible formats, not harder. The article you cite refers to digital media being pass/fail, i.e. either you can get all the data back from a medium or none of it. When is this ever true? With the right knowledge and training, similar to a historical art restorationists, a forensic scientist could recover the still intact parts of the digital medium. Physical deterioration will happen with ANYTHING we store our data on as the article you cite suggests also.

    5. Re:Will it last? by speculatrix · · Score: 1


      Long ago the BBC used to wipe and re-use tapes of programs that didn't get much interest or they felt had no long-term historical value.

      I recall that they only managed to recover some of the earliest Dr. Who's from fan's own recordings, even though the fair-use principles in the UK don't permit sharing off-air recordings and these fans shouldn't have kept them.

      The irony is now that they are trying to sue fans who got hold of the latest Dr. Who via P2P...

      They're also launching their own P2P service with DRM, but that's another story.

  13. Kudos by sdirrim · · Score: 1

    We need more information available to us. As a student, I know how this works. I always get a great preview on a search engine, exactly what I need for my term paper, then as soon as I click on it, I need to pay $14! Outrageous! What happened to freedom of information? Google stands for freedom of information, and I stand by that.

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    1. Re:Kudos by hritcu · · Score: 1

      As long as the books are under the copyright law, Google has to obey it. It is not a matter of choice.

      As for your freedom of information ... there is Slashdot :)

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    2. Re:Kudos by sdirrim · · Score: 1

      well, so long as the people are willing to let their information go, or if Google is willing to purchase the rights. Also, it helps to find alternative articles that are free.

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  14. Speculation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Google Search
    Google Maps
    Gmail
    Google Library
    Froogle
    Google Offline
    Google Talk
    etc.

    It's just a matter of time before Google TV will appear. Google's goal seem to be to wrap itself all around you.

    1. Re:Speculation by jcnnghm · · Score: 1

      Well you can't beat the price or feature set of google services. I hope Google TV does show up.

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  15. google book by LiTrIx · · Score: 1

    what's the link for google books? care to share pls thnks

    1. Re:google book by kurt_ram · · Score: 0

      Just Google it :P

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    2. Re:google book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
  16. Digital Libraries? What are book burners to do? by Safe+Sex+Goddess · · Score: 3, Insightful
    If all the books in the library are digital, doesn't that keep the book burners from having their fun?

    On a more serious note, how does one insure the intergrity of digital collections. Things can disappear or be replaced with more politically acceptable alternatives.

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    1. Re:Digital Libraries? What are book burners to do? by Uukrul · · Score: 2, Insightful
      On a more serious note, how does one insure the intergrity of digital collections.

      Backups? You can't do that with a paper-book. You can burn Alenxandria, but you can't delete all the Internet.
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    2. Re:Digital Libraries? What are book burners to do? by Mike_K · · Score: 1

      Write viruses and trojans, of course!

      m

  17. Re:The EU are a bunch of flaming homosexuals anywa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Oh, I can't help it I have to say something.
    If the EU is full of homosexuals then every white man in the USA must carry the same gene! :) Hahahaha!

  18. Wow, really? by re-Verse · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Google hopes to attract more visitors to its Web site and spawn more searches that generate advertising revenue. I, for one, am shocked. I never expected that Google would try to make money.

    I'm also shocked that they are trying to attract more users to their website - thanks for this news. Until I read this, I was convinced that they were trying to keep themselves a secret.

  19. Google did *NOT* open digital library to EU by Danuvius · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Under an expansion announced Thursday, the Mountain View-based company opened its ambitious Google Print book-scanning project to publishers in France, Italy, Germany, Netherlands and Spain.
    The European Union is made up of 25 countries, only 5 (20%) of which are invited to submit materials. Clearly google was going not for the EU, but for all the countries in Europe that Americans heard about before or would consider vacationing in.

    Thank you for reminding us that as far as America is concerned, Europe ends at the German and the Italian borders (and doesn't include a bunch of countries even west of there). It's now officially okay to forget about Poland, Belgium, Slovakia, Luxembourg, Denmark, Czech Republic, Greece, Ireland, Hungary, Portugal, Estonia, Cyprus, Slovenia, Malta, Latvia, Sweden, Lithuana, Finland, and Austria.
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    1. Re:Google did *NOT* open digital library to EU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Or perhaps they didn't want to tackle the whole thing at once, so they selected a few large, well known countries with languages commonly spoken and taught across the globe for their initial phase.

      By the way, your gross stereotyping of America is at least as bad as that of which you are accusing Google.

      Also of note: a simple search of print.google.com for Salmon Publishing (one of the larger Irish publishing houses) returns 11300 pages that are entered in the system.

    2. Re:Google did *NOT* open digital library to EU by Reducer2001 · · Score: 1
      It's now officially okay to forget about Poland, Belgium, Slovakia, Luxembourg, Denmark, Czech Republic, Greece, Ireland, Hungary, Portugal, Estonia, Cyprus, Slovenia, Malta, Latvia, Sweden, Lithuana, Finland, and Austria.

      Yeah! Now America's standardized geography scores will go up! (just kidding)

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    3. Re:Google did *NOT* open digital library to EU by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      They've got to start somewhere. I'm sure they'll open it up worldwide eventually, there's a big market to reach.

      Submitter just didn't do a great job with the headline.

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    4. Re:Google did *NOT* open digital library to EU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      >>> Thank you for reminding us that as far as America is concerned, Europe ends at the German and the Italian borders (and doesn't include a bunch of countries even west of there). It's now officially okay to forget about Poland, Belgium, Slovakia, Luxembourg, Denmark, Czech Republic, Greece, Ireland, Hungary, Portugal, Estonia, Cyprus, Slovenia, Malta, Latvia, Sweden, Lithuana, Finland, and Austria.

      Thanks for enumerating countries of Europe. It's convenient to forget Albania, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, FYROM, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Moldova, Norway, Romania, Serbia and Montenegro, San Marino, Switzerland, Ukraine, Vatican City.

      Remember, countries of EU is a proper subset of countries of Europe.

    5. Re:Google did *NOT* open digital library to EU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google forgot Poland? Dubya will be so sad.

    6. Re:Google did *NOT* open digital library to EU by ytm · · Score: 1

      Two nitpicks:
      - he was referning to EU, not Europe
      - both of you listed Luxembourg

    7. Re:Google did *NOT* open digital library to EU by Adelbert · · Score: 1

      One further nitpick:
      -no-one has yet mentioned the UK. Why do people act like it isn't part of Europe?

    8. Re:Google did *NOT* open digital library to EU by Crafack · · Score: 2, Funny
      -no-one has yet mentioned the UK. Why do people act like it isn't part of Europe?

      Wishful thinking, perhaps ?

      /Crafack

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  20. Translations by Uukrul · · Score: 1
    glad I can read more than one language.
    I can read English and a lot of latin derived languages (italian, french, portuguese...) but I prefer to read spanish, I undertand it better and can read it faster than all the others.
    There are only some texts, like poetry, that are better readed in its original languaje.

    So I think thats its a great idea having a Europen Google Library, but I don't think that it's very useful for english-speaking countries but all the other non-english.
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  21. it look like all the data will be centered by in-tech · · Score: 1

    i would love to get as much information as i want. this will definitely help me.

  22. GPL Digital Library Software: by SauroNlord · · Score: 1

    check out www.greenstone.org for a gpl application that rapidly allows you to create a digital library.

  23. If you've some extra money... by Slinky+Saves+the+Wor · · Score: 1

    I heard Pimsler language courses are pretty good to get you up to speed with the basics, and a "look and feel" of the language.

    Learning a new language is a good thing. For example, talking of experience: English is not my native language, but it was really good thing to learn it, since now I can find perhaps a hundred times more books in English than in my native language... Broadens the horizons, so to speak.

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    1. Re:If you've some extra money... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I listened to the first pimsleur tape of mandarin chinese and they basicly teach you sentences, but no grammar. It was quite different from what I learned in my chinese classes in school.

      I don't think tapes alone will help you a lot.

  24. preylying by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I thought the problems that content overseers had with Google Books is that it's preying on content without sustainably compensating producers of it. Not "relying" on content. I guess it's OK for corporations to increase the value of content by sharing it, via the network effect, but not when humans do the same (often more effectively).

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  25. Desperate Move by scottennis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From the article:

    "By reaching out to European publishers, Google hopes to substantially increase the volume of non-English books in its database, said Jim Gerber, director of content partnership for Google's print program."

    What it should say is:

    "By reaching out to European publishers, Google hopes to substantially increase the pressure on big American publishing houses who have balked at their attempts to catalog the mass-marketed books that they make money on and which Google knows will draw shitloads of traffic to their site, pushing up their advertising revenue said Jim Gerber, director of content partnership for Google's print program."

    Oh, that's not the issue, you silly man, I can hear some of you say. But as a small, independent publisher who joined Google Print several months ago and who's books are still in "pending" status, I have to wonder why they would be soliciting European publishers when they can't seem to get my few books into their Almighty Index.

    Oops. Forgot. I'm a nobody. A small businees. Nodody really gives a rat's ass about my books because they don't come with instant recognition, branding, and millions of marketing dollars already spent.

    My few books may be quality, but they probably won't bring in the buh-zillion hits and generate the goog-illion dollars that the Google shareholders need to justify their $285 stocks.

    It's okay guys. I understand that you don't really want to be evil, it's just that as a publicly traded company you now have a fiduciary responsibility to be evil.

    1. Re:Desperate Move by Comsn · · Score: 1
      From google print help:

      How long until my book goes live with Google Print?

      The amount of time it takes to get your book online will vary, depending on a number of factors. These can include the current volume of books to be scanned and the complexity of your books. As such, we are unable to provide a timeframe during which your books will go live, but we do make every effort to get your content live on our site as quickly as possible.

      Your publisher account gives you a view into the status of all of your titles. Click the Book Status link below the My Books tab to view a list of all titles that you've submitted. Books that are waiting to be scanned are marked as Pending . Once scanned, your title will show as Processed , and the file has been sent to be included in our index. Finally, once your book is uploaded and visible to users on Google Print, the status will change to Live and your title will be hyperlinked to the appropriate page on print.google.com .
      If this answer does not resolve your issue, please try searching or browsing Google Print Support for more assistance. If you are unable to find your answer, please contact us.


      seems pretty reasonable, maybe you could contact them about an idea to get books into google print faster if they are paid? so instead of 'first come first serve', its 'pay now, get in now'

      maybe i am misunderstanding things, but it seems you are insulting google with your post. i hope your PR guy is more friendly...

      also, what printing company do you work for? you should be advertising while posting to slashdot! get back to work!!!
  26. I wonder how this is going to work? by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    I mean, I spend a fair amount of time in Germany (for example) and am routinely disgusted by the price-fixed bookstores. The prices of books in dead-tree format are ridiculous...so now what are those publishers going to do as material starts going online? Even though we're slightly talking apples and oranges, it seems like this would hurt them in the long run.

    Sure, they can voraciously defend their turf by aggressively protecting copywritten works, but what's the German timeframe on text going to public domain? Is it better than the US's life+50 gajillion years?

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    1. Re:I wonder how this is going to work? by SEE · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The Germans, as with most other European countries adopted life+50 decades ago, back when the U.S. term was still a fixed 28 plus renewal for 28.

      And the EU as a whole, including Germany, adopted life+70 several years before the U.S.

      Further, the EU adoption (unlike the U.S.) was fully retroactive, not just extending the terms of books under copyright, but pulling books back out of the public domain and under copyright.

      The sorry fact is, compared to the EU, the U.S. has a large and healthy public domain.

  27. International Conventions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In general copyright is based upon an international convention (Berne Convention. I don't know exactly what Germany uses, I would guess life+50 years.

    1. Re:International Conventions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Actually, it's life + 70 years according to UrhG 64 (German copyright law).