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Dead Star Set to Escape the Milky Way

slackah wrote to mention a NewScientist.com article discussing a fast-moving stellar corpse on its way out of our galaxy. From the article: "The object, called B1508+55, is a rotating neutron star, or pulsar. It is the superdense core of a massive star that exploded as a supernova about 2.5 million years ago. The explosion seems to have ejected the pulsar with such force that it will eventually escape the Milky Way entirely, says team member Shami Chatterjee, an astronomer with NRAO and CfA."

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  1. Tracking by nounderscores · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wonder how long we can track this object once it leaves the galaxy. Any perturbations of its path will tell us about the dark matter between galaxies and the gravitational pull such putative dark matter exerts.

    1. Re:Tracking by DrEldarion · · Score: 3, Funny

      Blah, forget that scientific mumbo-jumbo nonsense. I want to see what happens when it hits something. Shit, they could put it on pay-per-view and make a mint.

    2. Re:Tracking by 1u3hr · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I wonder how long we can track this object once it leaves the galaxy. Any perturbations of its path will tell us about the dark matter

      Fast, for a star, but it's 1/300th of c. So it'll be at least 300,000 years to get 1000 ly out, getting to the edge of the galaxy. By then we'll either be extinct or know all about the dark matter.

  2. It can't be a space station. by nounderscores · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's too big to be a space station.

  3. Galaxies must be a lot more dynamic than I thought by Hannah+E.+Davis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This kind of thing makes me wonder how static the current shape of our galaxy is. Do stars (dead or otherwise) leave all the time, and do they ever come in from somewhere else? Do ejected stars form the cores of new galaxies? I doubt we'll ever get a chance to see much of this in action anyway since the galaxy in general moves so slowly, but it's still neat.

    It also occurs to me that this isn't really news: depending on how far away the star is/was, there's a fair chance that it left our galaxy millions of years ago :)

  4. You know your life is sad... by Dogun · · Score: 4, Funny

    when you find yourself envying a neutron star.

  5. Stellar probes for dark matter by nounderscores · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ok, the article didn't say anything about when it will leave the milky way. It just said that B1508+55 was going to leave the milky way, and that it had been traveling for 2.5million years from its point of origin in Cygnus. That translates to a velocity of 1100km/s or being able to cross 1/3 of the night sky from the time of birth to the present.

    There are two things that excite me about this. 1) B1508+55 is a massive radio emitting object which is boldly going into the intergalactic space where all that putative dark matter is supposed to be. If its path bends we might end up discovering a "dark galaxy". Of course someone with access to human astronomy records must be around to observe this when it happens.

    2) Cygnus spits out a lot of these objects. Maybe if we get a very much faster one, we can have a more convenient probe.

    1. Re:Stellar probes for dark matter by schwanerhill · · Score: 3, Informative
      B1508+55 is a massive radio emitting object which is boldly going into the intergalactic space where all that putative dark matter is supposed to be. If its path bends we might end up discovering a "dark galaxy".

      Indeed, pulsars are used to probe the interstellar medium to get at how much mass is tied up in ionized hydrogen, which scatters incident radio waves, causing scintillation which can be observed with a radio telescope. (Scintillation is the same effect the Earth's atmosphere has on visible light from stars, known as twinkling.) One of the ways we estimate the electron density in interstellar space is by comparing the dispersion of the pulsar signal to the distance to the pulsar. (This assumes you can get an accurate measurement of the distance, which is hard and uncertain for all but the most nearby pulsars.) There aren't great constraints on how much mass is tied up in interstellar gas, although it's not a terribly hot prospect for the missing baryonic mass.

      There are about 40 known pulsars that are substantially above the plane of the milky way (galactic altitude > 3 kpc or 9000 light years; this pulsar is 2.4 kpc away, according to the paper, for an altitude of 1.9 kpc). Most of these are in globular clusters or the Large and Small Magellenic Clouds, two small, nearby galaxies that orbit the Milky Way. What's remarkable about this pulsar is that it formed in the galactic plane and was kicked up that high.

      Pulsars typically move at velocities of ~100 - 500 km/s, so they cover a lot of space quickly, which lets you see the changes in the scintillation pattern on solar system size scales over the course of a few months. If you want to look at big scales, you look at many different lines of sight (i.e. many different pulsars).

      (Yes, I am a pulsar/interstellar medium astronomer, or at least a grad student who works in this area and knows very little.) ;)

  6. Amazing by Cash202 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    How interesting and spectacular.....

    Strange how one can be so impressed by something, he knows so little about...

    The concept of escaping the galaxy is awsome, but it would be nice to know more about it...

    So I did some research: Milky Way Galaxy is: ~100,000 light years in diameter; ~3,000 light years in thickness; ~250,000 light years in circumference.

    Basically, its huge. The ratio of our solar system to the milky way galaxy is 1:65,000,000.

    From this I believe that just about anything can escape the galaxy, it would just take an extremely long time. However, as I have stated, my knowledge on the subject is limited, so it is possible that the planets and stars are arranged in such a way, that the gravitational pull would always redirct any object to go back. (i.e.: meteors and asteroids pass Earth in patterns and intervals, without leaving the galaxy).

    The subject is very interesting, and if someone could bring more light on it, it would be helpful...

    1. Re:Amazing by meringuoid · · Score: 4, Funny
      Milky Way Galaxy is: ~100,000 light years in diameter; ~250,000 light years in circumference.

      Wow. I knew we had a central black hole, but I didn't realise it distorted space that much. What value is the pi where you live?

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  7. In other news... by elgatozorbas · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dard Vader not amused

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  9. Careful by ImaLamer · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's a trap!

  10. Thats nothing unususal by imsabbel · · Score: 4, Informative

    Those neutron stars are the product of stellar cores collapsing into a neutron star (and then sheding the outer hull thats impacting on the core rebounce shockwave in a class II supernova).

    Now if such a collapse isnt absolutly symetrical, there will be higher spherical hermonics in the neutron core oszillation, and thus the impact of the hull on the core will give it a random impuls vector (the first harmonic being the 2 hemispheres oszilating with 180degree phase difference).

    The observation of those fast moving neutron stars helped the understanding of this processes, as there isnt much that can accelerate them after their creation to this speeds.

    A common speed of a class2 supernova product is in the 100-1000 km/s range (about 2 orders of magnitures lower than the speed of the the ejected hull, thus the visible SNR still seemingly have the neutron star in the center), which is way enough for most to leave our galaxy (300 or so is needed)

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  11. Re:How is this possible? by imsabbel · · Score: 5, Informative

    The main point is: the core isnt EXPLODING, its COLLAPSING to a neutron star. The "explosion" is just a rebounce off the core (_slightly_ simplified :) ).

    After the collapse, the kinetic energy of the quasi free falling neutron matter will overcompress the neutron star core, and then it will oscillate.

    As the collapse istn something perfectly symetrical, there will be significant amplitude of the first harmonic of the oscillation. Thus (for example) the matter hitting the star on one hemisphere will have the core expanding in their direction with quite some speed, while the other side will see it receeding). As the impact isnt very long, there wont be time to average out. In the moment the hull impacts, the core will "push" itself away from that quasi-spherical shell thats hitting it.

    (you have to remember: there is significant mass in that shell. Only a small part of the star actually ends of in the neutron star, so there IS enough mass in the hull for conservation of momentum)

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  12. Re:Rogue star by babyblink · · Score: 3, Funny

    When I bet the star itself yelled "freeeeedom!"

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  13. Re:Galaxies must be a lot more dynamic than I thou by Markus+Registrada · · Score: 3, Interesting
    depending on how far away the star is/was, there's a fair chance that it left our galaxy millions of years ago

    7700 years, anyway, according to the article.

    But it's never a good idea to take these announcements at face value. It's far from clear the thing has anything to do with a supernova, or that it's a neutron star at all -- presuming any of them exist at all. What we do know is that its light (radio, x-rays, etc.) pulses at a rate too fast for them to understand unless it's a tiny thing spinning.

    The reason they insist it has to be something spinning is that they have studied almost no plasma fluid dynamics, so they can't understand something blasting out radio, light, and x-rays that doesn't have a star in the middle of it. They don't understand fluid instabilities and current oscillations, so they're at a complete loss to understand the (quite common) sudden, often temporary changes in oscillation rate in pulsars.

    What little they have studied, typically, is a trivial approximation to plasma fluid dynamics known as "magneto- hydro-dynamics" (MHD) which assumes space is superconducting and magnetic fields can't change distribution or strength. (They talk in all earnestness of magnetic fields "frozen" in place -- even in the sun!) Therefore, they can't understand how large flows of charged particles -- currents, which they insist on calling "jets" -- produce their own magnetic fields and flow along them, or how these flows' fields can interact in marvelously complex ways.

    Everything you read about "dark matter", "supermassive black holes", and "neutron stars" amounts to a desperate attempt to find some way to make the extremely weak and purely attractional gravity account for the complicated things they see. The mathematics behind plasma fluid dynamics is too hard for them, and they just can't stand that. It makes their press releases funny to read, but it's sad, too. (Think of the lives wasted on planetary epicycles.)