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Mozilla Firefox 1.5 Beta 1 Released

elfguygmail.com writes "Firefox 1.5 beta1 is out! It includes many new features including a new automatic update system, reworked options dialogs, faster browsing, new error pages, memory and stability updates. Get your beta at Mozilla.org."

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  1. Deer Park !!!!!!!!!! by zymano · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yeeeeeeah ! Faster back and forward means better performance reading messageboards . Deerpark alpha wont start on my machine. I am one those that submitted a couple of bugs on this. Good job boys!

    1. Re:Deer Park !!!!!!!!!! by Dread+Pirate+Shanks · · Score: 5, Informative

      If they can get it to be as fast as Opera's cached pages, they'll really have something there. Going back and forth in Opera is almost entertaining, it's so damn fast.

  2. Fp by anaesthetica · · Score: 4, Informative

    Posting on it now. Generally teh snappier on OS X, which I appreciate. Text handling still isn't good enough to switch from Camino. The drag n drop tabs are a very welcome addition. Also, it looks like the Slashdot bug has been cleared up. Sweet.

  3. Classic windows by Bob54321 · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those here that run Windows in the Classic theme, here a link to info on how to fix the menu looks http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_windows_classic

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  4. Watch Out Extensions Break by Blahbooboo3 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Warning, seems like most extensions won't work from 1.0x to 1.5beta1..

  5. Incompatible, duplicate extensions by ReformedExCon · · Score: 3, Informative

    There are two things I am not fond of with the current non-Beta Firefox. The first is the way it needs to download the whole installer just to update a point release. The second is how extensions with similar functionality are not coordinated.

    Take the GoogleBar for example. When I first installed Firefox it didn't come with a usable search tool, so I had to find GoogleBar which approximated the functionality of Google's IE GoogleBar. Now, Google comes along and releases their GoogleBar for Firefox and I'm left having to uninstall the old toolbar and install the new one. I'd rather the two projects just work closely together so that it could be updated seamlessly in one fell swoop.

    Things like these occasionally mar my Firefox experience which is otherwise very smooth.

    Speaking of smooth, does anyone else get a brief (1 second) pause when loading large pages in Slashdot? It seems to load part of the page, then it freezes for a second, then renders the rest of the page. It also happens on Photo.net, but there the whole discussion page reloads itself after loading once. Just a strange thing I noticed about Firefox.

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  6. Firefox 1.5 installation directions by mdew · · Score: 5, Informative

    When installing Firefox 1.5

    (1) Backup your old Firefox 1.0 profile
    (2) Start with a clean profile, its best to use a clean profile
    (3) Update your extensions
    (4) If the extensions still complain, try this following the directions from this link

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  7. Re:Extensions by asa · · Score: 4, Informative

    "I'm patient, but will all of the developers make and re-make their extensions for every version?"

    No. Developers will only have to test their extensions to make sure they're not broken by the latest Firefox release. All they have to do if their extension still works is tweak a version field at addons.mozilla.org (or wherever their extension checks for updates) and Firefox will allow the extension to run.

    We're still at beta and that gives developers quite a bit of time to get their extensions certified against the upcoming Firefox 1.5 release.

    If the extension author was relying on Firefox application code that changed, and broke the extension, then the extension will have to be updated.

    I'm hopeful that most of the popular extensions will have certified against 1.5 or made updates available by the time 1.5 final ships.

    - A

  8. Re:svg release schedule? by timealterer · · Score: 4, Informative
    SVG is absolutely built into Firefox 1.5. I've been using the nightly buids for months now, and it's there (I've tested it myself.) It's possible that they may set about:config's svg.enabled to false for the final release, but I think that is highly unlikely.

    See: Mozilla SVG Update and Mozilla SVG Status for some more info.

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  9. Re:Yeah! by ikkonoishi · · Score: 4, Informative

    Put the following line in your current version's user.js to get rid of the popups.

    user_pref("browser.xul.error_pages.enabled", true);

  10. Re:Extensions by benna · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yup, just open install.rdf and change 1.2 to 1.6a2 and most extentions will work fine. The only one that isn't working for me is bugmenot.

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  11. Re:Woohoo! by Rirath.com · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've been using the nightly branch builds for some time now, and no... I've seen no apparent fix for the memory leak. I mean, maybe a few holes have been plugged... but it still takes more memory than one would expect. On the other hand, I don't remember them claiming it fixed.

    The best feature for me is the new automatic nightly version system using Firefox's update system. No more manually downloading, unraring, and changing folder names... just a few clicks and I'm done. A very big plus, for nightly users.

    And since 1.5a may break a whole lot of extensions, I recommend Nightly Tester Tools, which can force an extention to work. You may also try going into about:config (type that in the URL bar) and manually making the entery:

    app.extensions.version

    Then setting this to a value of 1.0+. Can cause other problems though, so I'd go with Nightly Tester Tools first. Lastly, you could simply open the extension with an unzip util and modify the install.rdf, perhaps the most time consuming but failsafe method.

  12. Re:Flash by thesolo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Works just fine if you go directly to the swf, but attempting to load it in a webpage does nothing.

    For example:
    This swf loads.
    Its containing web page shows nothing. Works in 1.0.6

    I mean, that's why this is a beta, clearly something is wrong. Shame though, I was hoping to use this on a daily basis to QA. No flash means I can't, I do too much work in flash to not have it load.

  13. Re:I hate to be the one to bring up adblock but... by pomo+monster · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yeah, it does. The adblocker's called PithHelmet. There's dozens of other extensions available, most of very high quality.

  14. Re:Users need it by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Informative

    This, however, is solved in Firefox 1.5.

    Now, when Firefox notice there's an update available, the user gets a dialog telling there's an update, asking "do you wish to close Firefox and install it now? (otherwise it'll install next time you start Firefox)"

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  15. Doesn't Fix Splitting Absolutely Positioned Frames by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, this still doesn't fix bug #154892: "Splitting Absolutely positioned frames not implemented - Missing second page of content when printing or print previewing this site"

    This bug prevents many web sites from printing in any useful respect from Mozilla browsers.

    Its existence keeps me from rolling out Firefox as the default. It probably keeps any organization that frequently prints web pages from considering Firefox.

    But what really irks me is that this bug has existed since 2002!. The bug has been duplicated in dozens and dozens of bug reports. It has at least 70 votes in Bugzilla. Yet no one has fixed it, and there is NO INDICATION that it will be fixed in the foreseeable future, yet it directly affects the user's browsing experience.

    The history and severity of this bug does not reflect well on the Mozilla browser or its open source development model. NOTE: I am actually, personally, quite impressed with the Mozilla project, but someone who wants an excuse to banish free software might start with something like this.

    Finally, as a Firefox user, a personal plea: Somebody, please fix this! Please?

    For more information:
    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15489 2

  16. Re:Improvement? Sure, but.... by The+One+KEA · · Score: 3, Informative

    1.) OS X builds of Firefox 1.5b1 are _much_ more stable than their 1.0.x cousins. If you take a look at the URL below you'll see a great big stack of bugfixes, including many for OS X.

    http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/releases/1.5 b1.html

    2.) That sounds like an issue with JavaScript menus - I doubt it's the browser's fault per se; it could be an issue with the way the menu is designed.

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  17. Re:Funny... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Too bad the guy didnt know about the "View Formatted Source" Extension for firefox (Bigger shame since he is a part of the mozilla foundation). http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic =3565 Enjoy. Rahul

  18. Re:Woohoo! - Not a troll by coolsva · · Score: 5, Informative
    Right on the mark. I have been using FF since version 0.6 or so and spreading the word to all people I meet. At that time and all the way till version 1.0, I accepted most bugs/performance issues as beta related. But at version 1.06 if I still have random performance problems, memory hogging. Also, IMHO, I see a lot of arrogance among the developers/supporters. Personally, I want a browser that works well, is fast and supports all sites. IE also does satisfy all my needs but is full of exploits. I recently downloaded Opera to try this past month and there is no looking back. Sure, some features like adblock, flashblock, 'images from originating server' and most importantly extensions/plugins are missing, but guess what, I can live with that. All these latest greatest features we keep talking about are not really revolutionary, they have been implemented in other browsers (including opera)

    Well, there goes my karma, I WILL be modded as troll for this, but had to get it out

  19. Re:Yeah! by Gordonjcp · · Score: 4, Informative

    It doesn't open in a new tab, but the current tab (as you'd expect).

    Have a look at this error screen for an example. I'm on XP at work, but I would think that other platforms would be similar.

  20. Re:Back by arkanes · · Score: 3, Informative
    The current standard says that "back" should always load from cache, but for a long time it didn't directly address it and a lot of browsers did various thing. IE and Netscape both send a HEAD request for to check for a new version. Opera will unconditionally load from cache. I believe that Opera will load from cache even with a page that has no-cache set, which is wrong.

    Firefox, by the way, will fall back on the cache if it's unable to get the HEAD request. I'm not sure if it will correctly fall back if the HEAD succeeds but the actual request does not. IE will crap out, though.

    Precisely what the "correct" behavior is, by which I mean "what the user expects" will vary from case to case, so it's hard to have a case that everyone agrees with. Netscape and IE both implemented what they thought was right, and have retained that behavior for consistencies sake even though some of the purists in the standards bodies have changed it.

  21. Re:inline-block? by SimplexO · · Score: 4, Informative

    Bug 9458 - Implement inline-block in layout.

    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9458

    This is one of those golden-oldy bugs with a 4-digit bug number, so chances are it's really hard to implement.

    Opened: 1999-07-08 15:25 PDT
    Last modified: 2005-09-06 12:46 PDT

    It looks like you might be able to get away with using both of the following rules:

    display:-moz-inline-box;
    display:inline-block;