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China Telecom Blocking Skype Calls

Retrospeak writes "According to a Reuters report China is starting to block Skype service in Shenzhen, an affluent southern city of China. Local Chinese media report that China Telecom has plans to eventually block the service throughout its coverage area nationwide. Could this have something to do with the fact that China Telecom charges close to $1 per minute for calls to United States and Europe?" From the article: " A China Telecom spokesman had no comment on the reports about the Shenzhen blockage, but gave a broader view. 'Under the current relevant laws and regulations of China, PC-to-phone services are strictly regulated and only China Telecom and (the nation's other fixed-line carrier) China Netcom are permitted to carry out some trials on a very limited basis,' he said."

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  1. Sad Future of Broadband Access in other countries by Nerd+Systems · · Score: 5, Interesting
    China Telecom is pretty smart to be blocking the Skype service, even though ethically I think it is not right to be blocking a user's internet connection experience like this. User's pay for an internet connection, expecting to be able to use it for many various purposes, and not have certain "features" blocked, but then again, this is not America either.

    Here in America, at least we have the FCC and other governing bodies telling big business what they are allowed to do and what they are forbidden to do, and the majority of time the rules are followed at least. I know a while back that some major ISPs tried to block Vonage on their systems but after a major outcry from their subscribers this was changed quickly.

    China has always been known to be a government that censor's free speech and tries to limit what it's citizens have access to. I am sure that their email systems are all monitored with anti-government emails being filtered out or those sending/receiving these emails being placed on watch lists, and am sure that each citizen's web surfing habits are monitored as well.

    This is just another example of why I am glad to live here in the United States of America. We may complain about things from time to time, but at least we do have more freedom of information and able to know more, then most other countries out there. If my Vonage was blocked by my ISP, I would be contacting Road Runner in a hurry, and getting things straight, something that as an American we can take care of. I'm glad to not be helpless like the majority of private citizens in China are.

    I wonder if this is proven to be a successful triumph on China Telecom's part, if it will help spur other ISP's in various countries around the globe to take a part in this as well. Voice over IP has been a wonderful blessing to many around the world, being used by many to reach other's in distant countries, at a far cheaper cost then a normal voice call would cost... hope this doesn't catch on and cause VOIP as a whole to start being shut down outside of America.

    Hopefully, Skype can just one-up the Chinese, and change the way their system works, to more easily get around the blockage, as well as having the system be more intelligent in finding connections, bypassing any blocking measures that China Telecom might try to implement.

    I'm not a lawyer, and curious about the legal implications of this. I know that with China being a communist nation, that the people probably have no rights, but could Skype turn around and have a lawsuit against China Telecom, for "obstruction of service" or "tampering with service" which is essentially what they are doing?

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  2. Re:Sad Future of Broadband Access in other countri by Mullen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Simple test to see which country is more free.

    Can you join a Nazi party in your Country? Many European Countries you can not, in the US, you can.
    Can you buy a copy Mein Kamf? Many Countries you can not, in the US, you can.
    Can you buy anything that is printed? In the United Stated, bomb making books are printed and sold, legally.
    Are your basic rights outlined in your constition? Freedom of Speech, Right to Assemble, Freedom of the Press and Freedom of Religion are the basic foundations of this Country are protect by our Bill of Rights.

    Europe and other countries can bash us for many reasons and in some areas are more free than we are, but in the Big Picture, we are more free than anyone else.

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  3. Re:I am talking to Shenzhen NOW on skype by wangxiaohu · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is true. I have my family in Shenzhen and I study in Canada. We phone each others on Skype frequently and found no problem. BTW, calling from China to Canada is about few cents per minutes, not $1.

  4. What a joke by piecewise · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's unfortunate you seem to hold most dearly those values related to the Nazi revolution. Unfortunately, I don't like settling for that kind of freedom.

    If I'm blocked from attending a town hall meeting put on by my President because I'm a Democrat, I'm not very free.

    If elections can be decided by a court, I'm not very free.

    If neoconservatives can threaten to impeach judges because they don't decide cases based on religious contrine, I'm not very free.

    If big businesses can invest their money wisely enough to buy off a Congress, I'm not very free. (See the energy, telecommunications, defense, highway bills.)

    If oil companies formerly run by our Vice President get no-bid contracts and take over Iraqi oil fields, I'm not very free.

    If the government office in charge of investigating abuses of power (like those no-bid contracts) say they're "too busy" to investigate Cheney, despite having three times the case load when they approved a Clinton investigation, I'm not very free.

    If my uncle down south, along with others, is asked to leave his church because he's a card-carrying Democrat, I'm not very free.

    If wealthy people get billions of dollars and, as a result, we cripple state budgets and tens of thousands of people die because of a Hurricane, I'm not very free.

    The truth is, honest to God, I'd trade in my copy of "My Struggle" if it reversed all those things. Freedom is in the eye of the beholder. The rich and the religious feel very free. In fact, they feel ENTITLED. But the truth is, there's a reason Norway is #1 on the UN's list of countries to live in and the U.S. is #37. I can't imagine Norwegians are screaming for liberty and freedoms. They're free, they go about their lives, and they do well.

    The U.S. has turned a corner and is on a very dark path right now. If you don't see it - even just a glimpse of it - then you need to, because power tends to consolidate, and if past actions lend to future ambitions, we're in for big trouble as neocons continue gaining strength.

    Your simple test is misguided. It's not about which party you can join. After all - Germany had a problem with Nazis and outlawed them. We spent a better part of the 20th century tearing to pieces Communists in our own. Even today, in the 21st century, many folks spend their time talking about "killing" (yes, hate speech) the liberals who ruin this country. They are perverse, sick, disgusting individuals who are so entrenched in a false system of values.

    The true test of freedom is the consolidation of power. Is it centralized in the people in America? I would say less and less. Corporatism is the new threat - and the neocons (and even many Conservatives) are perfectly aligned to feed it. This threatens our values. These are not our American values -- hell, they're not even good Christian values, if you want to bring religion into it.

    Love your country, Mullen. Just don't love it too much. The Constitution is a pitiful and weak thing -- it is not the protector of our great democracy.

    We are.

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    1. Re:What a joke by flabbergast · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Love your country, Mullen. Just don't love it too much. The Constitution is a pitiful and weak thing -- it is not the protector of our great democracy.
       
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      I wholeheartedly agree. And I agree with many things you've said: corporations and their bitches, aka lawyers, are consolidating power at an alarming rate and Americans don't do enough to protect our liberties. However, I have issues with your idea of freedom.

        If I'm blocked from attending a town hall meeting put on by my President because I'm a Democrat, I'm not very free.

      If my uncle down south, along with others, is asked to leave his church because he's a card-carrying Democrat, I'm not very free.


      Your idea of freedom seems misguided. You can flip it and look at it from the other point of view. If a congregation believes that a Democrat in their midst is a bad thing, then its their freedom to turn that person or persons away. Is that truly what God would want? Most decidedly not, but its their choice to do so. Likewise, banning someone from a town hall meeting because of their political persuasion is their choice as well. Is it politically savvy to do so? Probably not. Will it create anger and unrest? Yes. Does it infringe on your rights to attend that meeting?

      If you always look from the perspective of how you were screwed of your freedom then any decision anyone makes is an infringment of your freedom. Get pulled over for speeding? Infringment of my freedom! Why? Because I'm obviously not free to speed.

      If neoconservatives can threaten to impeach judges because they don't decide cases based on religious contrine, I'm not very free.

      Sure you're free. Just as neocons are free to threaten to impeach judges for not voting along neocon lines, you're free to fight back if you disagree with them. Simply because you disagree with people doesn't mean your freedom is trampled on. You are guilty of what you imply: that we don't do enough to protect our freedoms.

  5. Re:Sad Future of Broadband Access in other countri by DJCF · · Score: 5, Informative

    You didn't see our country piling innocent arab-americans into prisons after 9/11??

    Erm, yes I did.

    In short, no, we don't go after commies anymore.

    Oh, and yes , you do.