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SpaceX Announces Bigger Rocket

bullitB writes "SpaceX, a commercial developer of rocket systems, has announced a new Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicle (EELV) class rocket. Dubbed the Falcon 9, the rocket will be able to launch nearly 25 metric tons into low earth orbit for a mere $78 million. It looks like they have already signed up Bigelow Aerospace for a launch in 2008."

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  1. Re:May? by Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's to hoping. I've been following them for a while, and their launch prices per kilogram are mind boggling. Of course, so have the numbers of a dozen rocket startups whose rockets eventually ended up in the scrapheap. SpaceX has made it very far, however, and I think at least the Falcon I will make it (assuming the company's books are sound).

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  2. Re:We're gonna need a traffic cop by Rei · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not that simple. You don't get your 1 lb satellite up for $1500 - you get your satellite up for $6 million. Perhaps you can partner with some other organization who is going to a similar orbit and share costs, or even a few organizations, but you're not going to have a cheap launch vehicle maneuver to 2,000 different orbits and do 2,000 satellite deployments.

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  3. This has been Elon Musk's goal all along by XNormal · · Score: 5, Informative

    These big rockets have been Elon Musk's goal all along. That's why he didn't use air launch.

    Air launching has many advantages: lower atmospheric pressure improves the efficiency of engines, reduces air drag losses, greatly reduces dynamic loads, allowing the use of lighter structures. Perhaps most importantly, air launching can be done over the ocean without expensive range fees - and range delays like SpaceX is currently experiencing.

    But air launch does not easily scale to large sizes. For really large rockets you have to launch from the ground.

    Elon eventually plans to build a Saturn-V class launcher for for manned missions to Mars. It may seem premature when they haven't launched Falcon 1 yet, but so far they seem to be doing the right things.

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    1. Re:This has been Elon Musk's goal all along by XNormal · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Rockoons" (rockets launched from balloons) have been tried but only for very small rockets. None of them orbital so far.

      Balloons are pretty much at the mercy of the wind. You can't choose your launch spot for range safety and precise orbital insertion. For large rockets ground handling and launching of such huge balloons is difficult, dangerous and very sensitive to weather. Landing back after a scrubbed launch is virtually impossible.

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  4. Article text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    SpaceX to Tackle Fully Resusable Heavy Lift Launch Vehicle
    By Leonard David
    Senior Space Writer
    posted: 08 September 2005
    04:25 pm ET
    Space Exploration Technologies Corporation (SpaceX) announced today that it will develop a Falcon 9 booster - an Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicle (EELV) class vehicle.

    A key goal of SpaceX is developing a family of launch vehicles intended to increase the reliability and probably reduce the cost of access to space by a factor of twenty percent.

    SpaceX, headquartered in El Segundo, California, is bankrolled and run by Elon Musk, a successful entrepreneur that among past activities co-founded PayPal, a leading electronic payment system.

    According to a press statement detailing company plans, the Falcon 9 would be capable of launching approximately 14,000 pounds (9,500 kilograms) to Low Earth Orbit (LEO) in its medium configuration and 35,000 pounds (25,000 kilograms) to LEO in its heavy configuration, a lift capacity "greater than any other similar launch vehicle," the SpaceX statement said.

    In the medium configuration, Falcon 9 would be priced at $27 million per flight with a 5 ft (3.6 m) fairing and $35 million with a 9 ft fairing. Prices include all launch range and third party insurance costs, making Falcon 9 probably the most cost efficient vehicle in its class worldwide.

    First booster, yet-to-fly

    SpaceX initially intended to follow its first vehicle development, Falcon 1, with the intermediate class Falcon 5 launch vehicle.

    But the company now explains that, in response to customer requirements for low cost enhanced launch capability, SpaceX has accelerated development of an EELV-class vehicle. Therefore it is upgrading Falcon 5 to Falcon 9.

    According to the company statement, SpaceX has sold Falcon 9 to a U.S. government customer. SpaceX still plans to make Falcon 5 available in late 2007.

    The announcement today comes at a time when the company has yet to fly its Falcon 1 booster.

    The maiden launch for Falcon 1 is now scheduled for fall of this year from the SpaceX island launch complex in the Kwajalein Atoll. A second Falcon 1 mission is slated to follow a classified launch of a Titan 4 booster from the Vandenberg Air Force Base in California.

    Falconeering the future

    Musk told SPACE.com that Falcon 9 is intended for three roles:

    -All sizes of Geostationary Transfer Orbit (GTO) satellites, including commercial and government customers.
    -Heavy LEO satellites, which are mainly U.S. Department of Defense spacecraft.
    -Resupply of the International Space Station with cargo and later crew transportation.

    "The prices we are showing do not account for reusability, so I'm hopeful that we will be able to reduce costs significantly over time. Also, this is still the first generation of our propulsion technology," Musk said. The SpaceX Merlin 2 engine will benefit from a very significant thrust upgrade and also be considerably cheaper per pound of thrust than Merlin 1, he said.

    "As a result, the generation of rockets based on Merlin 2 will be much cheaper per unit mass to orbit than the Falcon line, which is based on Merlin 1," Musk said.

    Musk noted that the goal of SpaceX is to make Mars colonization affordable.

    That means growing to super-heavy 10-plus ton lift, super-cheap and super-reliable launcher, Musk said. "Falcon 1 was the first step and Falcon 9 is the second step."

  5. Manned flight an option. by Rxke · · Score: 3, Informative

    Without really advertising it, when Musk is interviewed about a 'man-rated' version of his rocket, he merely smiles, saying it is in essence already man-rated. Engine-out safety etc.
    Of course, there's no capsule designed, but I guess he doesn't (currently) see that as HIS job, he's just aiming towards cheap launchers for commercial market, and the $$$ are to be found in the satellite business, not in manned flights (yet)
    But if a third party decides that, yes, lauching paying customers is a viable business-model, all that could change quickly.

    20mil being the current price for spacetourists, compared to a rocket that can haul 25000kg to LEO... You can build a BIG manned capsule with that weight budget, so prices would go down markedly.

  6. resasons for no-show by theProf · · Score: 3, Informative

    their problem has been an existing launch manifest at vandenberg. there is a atlas 5 or somesuch in the way. as it has a $bn payload on top, they cannot fly. hence the relocation to the (amusingly) named ronald reagan ABM test facility of kawaljein island.

    spacex have done their development right. they are using intelligent designs. they have done an awful lot of testing and simulation. they look to have a chance.

    it may seem odd to actually put a commercial payload on an untested rocket, but given that nearly every launch is on virgin equipment it makes sense (discounting ariane 501, for which parts of the payload were dug out of a rainforest and displayed - some instruments were nearly reusable)