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Canada's Do-Not-Hesitate-To-Call List

An anonymous reader writes "The creation of a do-not-call list in Canada has run into trouble. Michael Geist reports that the proposal has been effectively destroyed, with exceptions for just about every telemarketer including businesses, political parties, polling companies, and charities. The government committee apparently heard from the marketers but refused to listen to consumer groups."

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  1. Frist post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Bill Frist, Frist post

  2. Slashdotted at T-0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Article posted at 11:31am.
    Slashdotted at 11:31am.

  3. Telemarketing is about as annoying as... by RUFFyamahaRYDER · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    These damn Frist Post/Frosty Piss... whatever posts!

    Let's start a do-not-post list too! =)

  4. It's easy to avoid spam by Anita+Coney · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Simply do NOT give your email address to anyone who even MIGHT sell it or abuse it.

    I have one "real" email address for my friends and family. I've had it about four years now and have NEVER received spam on it. Never. Ever. It's completely spam free.

    When I want to buy something or sign up for something, I'll create a new account. For example username.newegg@url.com for newegg. If a retailer starts spamming me or sells my address, I'll know EXACTLY who did it and can avoid it again by simply deleting the account.

    I've only had two instances where my secondary accounts were spammed. One created for the PCMag forums and one for my bank, Standard Federal.

    Four years with only two spams seems pretty good to me.

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  5. Revised US nuclear doctrine outlines preemption... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Revised US nuclear doctrine outlines preemption strategy

    By Walter Pincus, Washington Post, September 11, 2005

    WASHINGTON -- The Pentagon has drafted a revised doctrine for the use of nuclear weapons that envisions commanders requesting presidential approval to preempt an attack by a nation or terror group using weapons of mass destruction. The draft also includes the option of using nuclear arms to destroy known enemy stockpiles of nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons.

    The document, written by the Pentagon's Joint Chiefs staff but not yet approved by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, would update rules and procedures governing the use of nuclear weapons to reflect a preemption strategy first announced by the Bush White House in December 2002. The strategy was outlined in more detail at the time in classified national security directives.

    At a White House briefing that year, a spokesman said the United States would ''respond with overwhelming force" to the use of weapons of mass destruction against the United States, its forces, or allies, and said ''all options" would be available to the president.

    The draft, dated March 15, would provide authoritative guidance for commanders to request presidential approval for using nuclear weapons, and represents the Pentagon's first attempt to revise procedures to reflect the Bush preemption doctrine. A previous version, completed in 1995 during the Clinton administration, contains no mention of using nuclear weapons preemptively or specifically against threats from weapons of mass destruction.

    Titled ''Doctrine for Joint Nuclear Operations" and written under the direction of Air Force General Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the draft document is unclassified and available on a Pentagon website. It is expected to be signed within a few weeks by Air Force Lieutenant General Norton A. Schwartz, director of the Joint Staff, according to Navy Commander Dawn Cutler, a public affairs officer in Myers's office. Meanwhile, the draft is going through final coordination with the military services, the combatant commanders, Pentagon legal authorities, and Rumsfeld's office, Cutler said in a written statement.

    A ''summary of changes" included in the draft identifies differences from the 1995 doctrine and says the new document ''revises the discussion of nuclear weapons use across the range of military operations."

    The first example for potential nuclear weapon use listed in the draft is against an enemy that is using ''or intending to use WMD" against US or allied, multinational military forces or civilian populations.

    Another scenario for a possible nuclear preemptive strike is in case of an ''imminent attack from adversary biological weapons that only effects from nuclear weapons can safely destroy."

    That and other provisions in the document appear to refer to nuclear initiatives proposed by the administration that Congress has thus far declined to fully support.

    Last year, for example, Congress refused to fund research toward the development of nuclear weapons that could destroy biological or chemical weapons materials without dispersing them into the atmosphere. The draft document also envisions the use of atomic weapons for ''attacks on adversary installations including WMD, deep, hardened bunkers containing chemical or biological weapons."

    But Congress last year halted the funding of a study to determine the viability of the Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrator warhead -- commonly called the bunker buster -- that the Pentagon has said is needed to attack hardened, deeply buried weapons sites.

    The Joint Staff draft doctrine explains that despite the end of the Cold War, the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction ''raises the danger of nuclear weapons use."

    It says that there are ''about thirty nations with WMD programs" along with terrorists ''either independently or as sponsored by an adversarial state."

    To meet that situation, the document says that

  6. Corrupt Canadian Government by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The Liberal dictatorship that has gripped this country for the past decade is about as corrupt as they get, all you need is to throw a little money their way and they will make any law or policy you want. Big telemarketing firms getting exceptions to the do not call list, eh? Gee, I wonder which politician(s) was made an instant millionaire from this? I know Bell is excepted as well as CIBC and other Canadian banks, these are Canada's biggest money makers and most prolific telemarketers.

    The saddest thing about this is that Canada keeps voting back the Liberals into power because the other parties are sad, pathetic, and in ruins and offer no valid alternative to the mob. If Alberta separates from Canada, I hope they would, I will be packing up and moving pretty damn quickly.

    They say every vote counts but this isn't the case in Canada, your votes don't mater because the huge surplus of civil servants with their kushy overpaid and mob (ahem Union) protected jobs will vote for the Liberals for fear that a regime change might find their job suddenly deprecated.

    Anyways, this is off topic, but as Canadian it doesn't surprise me that the rights and wishes of the people are ignored and trumped by any government organization. Canada like the US, ha!, at least in the US, politicans are scared and mindful of the opinions of the people and aim to please them.

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