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Data Still Left on Storage Devices for Sale

cluedweasel writes "According to a BBC story many people are still putting up their old PC's and storage devices for sale without taking basic precautions to ensure that confidential data is erased. The suggestion at the end of the story is to get a professional forensics firm to wipe your data or just destroy the item in question. With the low price of storage devices, the latter is probably preferable."

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  1. DBAN. Learn it, Live it, Love it. by Orrin+Bloquy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Darik's Boot and Nuke. Cheap, efficient, portable. Worst thing that happened using it was cleaning a PC so old its CD-ROM drivers weren't in firmware, so I had to download a boot disk off the net to reinstall them.

    --
    "Made up/misattributed quote that makes me look smart. I am on /. and I must look smart."
  2. Re:Not only good drive but also bad drives by pegr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Now, get real: Want to know the BIGGEST, best-kept secret in data forensics? The most effective way to forever put your data beyond the reach of cops and courts is:

            dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda

     
    /dev/urandom is a better source... With zero, analog analysis can be used to determine the drive's prior contents. Of course, if somebody is willing to do that to recover data, they already have your house bugged...

  3. DO NOT DESTROY STORAGE THEN "DONATE" by magarity · · Score: 5, Informative

    or just destroy the item in question
     
    Nooo!!!
     
    I worked as the technology re-use manager at a nonprofit organization whose mission was to get donated goodies, including computers (my responsibility), to small local charitable organizations. Our warehouse had pallet upon pallet of donated computers whose hard drives were removed as part of corporate donors' policies regarding data safety. Did we get those computers to community centers, adult education programs, inner city kids, etc? Heck no, we had to send them to the metal recycler for 2 cents per pound. Sure, per-storage unit hard drives are cheap but to get enough for a couple of hundred computers is a major expense. And yes, we applied to Maxtor, Seagate, IBM, HP and a couple of others to try to get them to donate hard drives but no dice.
     
    The late-middle aged lady who wants to type and print the church newsletter has ABSOLUTELY no use for a computer without a hard drive and even less of an idea how to install one even if she did have budget to get one. Get a commercially available eraser program; there are plenty of titles and methods. Said church lady has NO IDEA how to extract prior data from a drive that was just plain formatted and a fresh Windows installation put on.

  4. Re:Not only good drive but also bad drives by dougmc · · Score: 5, Informative
    You need far stronger static magnetic fields to damage a drive without opening it than you can buy.
    Mod parent up. He's spot-on here.

    Strong magnets (as strong as you're likely to have at home anyways) will erase (ruin) floppy media just fine. And cassette tape media. And probably 8 tracks. I don't know what they'll do to QIC-150, 4 mm or 8 mm media. But they won't erase DLT media, and won't erase modern hard drives, probably not even if you put it right next to the platter itself.

    (Now, opening the drive up and scraping the magnet over the drum, physically damaging it, that may be effective. But a non-magnetic wire brush would work as well.)

    Personally, I erase my media with some variation of this --

    dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdc bs=102400
    and let that go until it's done. Repeat if you're extra paranoid. Sure, there may be some data left in sectors that have been re-allocated by the firmware. Sure, the NSA might be able to recontruct my data bit by bit with microscopes. But if I'm really worried about that, I'm not going to sell my disk -- I'm going to physically destroy it.

    As for warranty repair, that's a tough call. If the dd can't be done, the odds are good that the company can recover almost everything on the disk. You'll have to consider the pros (you get a new disk! free!) vs. the cons (they might be able to recover all of your data.)