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Flash, Meet Sparkle

Robert writes "Microsoft finally released more information about their Sparkle product on a Channel 9 MSDN video. Sparkle is vector based XAML system for doing applications that may have traditionaly been done in flash. Ars Technica's Josh Meier has a few things to say about it, too."

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  1. Not flash killer. by steelfood · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yet, here it is, with a name that sounds exactly like it's directly competing with Flash. Along those lines, why Sparkle? Flash sounds cool, but Sparkle sounds...girly.

    Otherwise, the concept actually sounds really cool, like the visual component of Visual Studio on steroids. Replacing the windowing interface with purely vector graphics sounds promising, though it also sounds a little too abuseable. Still, this might herald the beginning of an actually innovative M$, seeing that they now have Google and FOSS knocking on its doors.

    I wonder if it'll make use of the GPU to do the rendering.

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  2. Re:XAML? by iluvcapra · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If it's based on XML, it had better specify a compression standard. Declarative prgramming a graphical object can make for some absolutely huge files.

    On OS X, there was this program floating around on Versiontracker that would convert any picture into an html document by converting each pixel into a table-cell that was styled 1px by 1px and colored. This prevened easy downloading of the image, but caused what might have been a 100k image to take up 4 megs in an html file.

    Of course, XAML is vector-based, but knowing the kinds of schemas MS likes to promulgate, the possiblity of bandwidth-chewing "rich web content" is quite real.

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  3. Re:the C. P. Snow Divide of Sciences and Humanitie by tomhudson · · Score: 5, Interesting
    If people really think that Microsoft makes crappy products,
    reality check time:

    I've spent the last 2 days on the road talking with people at 53 companies. Dragged along an engineer as part of his training. I'll be out there again tomorrow, and I'm sure that it'll be the same.

    Not one person said they liked using Windows. Not one! They hate Windows. They hate Microsofts Client Access Licensing schemes. They hate the viruses, the downtime, the forced upgrades, the patch hell, the crappy products - everything. And they also hate it when they go home. They want OUT!

    This is not a slashdot "talking-out-of-my-ass" opinion - this is the reality in the corporate world today. Pissed off doesn't begin to describe it. They feel they've been raped.

    Like I said, I've expended the shoe leather, gotten the face time, and this is the reality. Microsoft makes crap. Everyone knows it. Nobody likes it.

    There's no need for a "coming together." The world and Microsoft are heading for a divorce.

  4. Re:compatibility by Jessta · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seems microsoft is trying to tie web services to windows.
    ie. Google threatens microsoft because many google applications run in a web browser that could be running on any platform.
    Now if microsoft can get everyone using what is basically Windows GUI in all there web apps then those web apps will be tied to windows.

    Yay for microsofts World Domination Department. good job guys, thanks for making life difficult.

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  5. Will this benefit interactive designers? by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm a grad student studying interactive design, and I'm fairly intrigued about a software package seemingly being marketed toward "interactive designers."

    Currently, interactive designers are few and far between. It's difficult to find a -good- graphic designer who understands human behavior and software development.

    I know a ton of good developers who can produce ok interfaces (ok as in "ehh", not ok as in "good"); I know a slew of good designers who don't know a string from an array; and I know several HCI gurus who don't understand graphic design / visual communication from a hole in the ground.

    So, here are my questions... is Sparkle evidence of Microsoft's foresight? Does Microsoft realize "interactive design" is an emerging discipline? Are they going to cater to new designers who are capable of communicating with developers and contributing toward in initial development. Or, is Sparkle just another attempt at offering staggered babelfish communication between designers and developers who really don't understand each other's jobs?

    If it's the latter, I don't know how successful this product is going to be.

    This sounds fairly rad, but I'm somewhat pessimistic. After seeing the UIs for Windows Vista(TM) and Word 12, I doubt Microsoft really understands interactive design. How can they understand interactive design if they're not hiring real interactive designers, or at the very least, not incorporating them properly into the development process? My complaints about OS X's Finder pale in comparison to my complaints about those gift wrapped turds.

    Man... what I would give for one day in Redmond with executive management.

    Personally, I think the next big wave in software development is going to come from interactivity

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