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Anders Hejlsberg on C# 3.0
spongman writes "Channel9 has a video of Anders Hejlsberg demoing C# 3.0. The new language enhancements include implicitly typed locals, extension methods, strongly-typed lambda expressions, anonymous types, and LINQ - a builtin SQL-like syntax for data access. The spec, samples and a working compiler can be found on MSDN."
One area of intensive research in IT for years is setting up a portable high-performance disconnect between database and other tiers.
It is high-performance. Watch the demo - at one point Anders sets up a log, and you can see that the LINQ query was transformed into the appropriate, performant T-SQL which is passed to the RDBMS. It isn't doing the standard, shittacular "pull everything back in a terribly unscalable manner and then filter it in the middle tier", but rather appears to be analyzing the whole of the query and communicating it effectively to the source.
Embedded SQL in computer languages has been around for a very long time
It isn't embedded SQL. It's set operations that obviously share commonalities with SQL, but are largely different. Again, have you watched the video or read the spec? DLINQ, by the way, is the ORM system that makes the objectpersistence "transparent" (leaky abstraction, like all ORMs, but still).
Also, I can't believe that MS C# is going to include support for MySQL, Postgresql etc, like Hibernate, NHibernate, JDO etc.
I doubt it'll include support either, out of the box. Instead, like always, they've created a generalized data services layer that any provider can plug into - create a ADO.NET 3.0 data provider for MySQL, and your data service can be the target of LINQ operations.
C# is a nice language, but the problem is I just don't trust Microsoft anymore. From a business perspective sticking with Microsoft has proven to be a mistake.
.NET and move on to something else?
I work for a software house in London and we have a large VB6 application that has been built up over many years. VB6 has effectively been dumped by Microsoft, so our application is slowly rotting away. There is absolutely no way we can rewrite it in C# or VB.Net, we just don't have the resources. I suggested that we at least write all new components in C# and use interop, but that turned out to be a real pain, especially when trying to debug.
So what do we do? Spend a fortune rewriting our product in C# while our competitors (who may be using Java) continue to improve their products. And once we have eventually finished the rewrite, will Microsoft just dump
I have to wonder. If there had been a number of VB6 vendors, rather than just Microsoft, they could never have dumped VB6. In that situation we would have all just moved over to another vendor.
Is anyone else here in a similar situation?
They keep adding more and more stuff to the language...is there anyone that can really read all of the code that is possible to be written in C#? It sounds like a readability nightmare to me.
Heck, it took me years to learn all of the components in C++, and I'd bet that the specification for the complete language is now much smaller than C#'s. And there's still stuff waiting to be discovered on the level of template meta-programming.
Is all of the stuff they keep adding actually useful? Or is it just being added so that they can give the impression of progress, and maybe convert more people to using it? Granted, I'm excited about C++0x, but unlike what I would be thinking if I used C#, I'm not worried because I trust the standards body to not put completely unnecessary stuff into the language. What do you C# programmers think?
What are you talking about? The .NET environment and C# environment has always been available as a separate, free download from MSDN. While developing in Visual Studio is nice, you absolutely don't have to. The compiler is a standalone commandline compiler and the runtime environment certainly doesn't have anything to do with Visual Studio. The Mono developers regularly download the latest versions of .NET to compile their test suites and compare the results to Mono's results.
What forced upgrades are you referring to? I must be missing something here.