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The New Face Lift

RiotXIX writes to tell us that US surgeons plan on moving forward with their newest experimental medical practice, a face transplant. Doctors have already succeeded in making this practice a reality with cadavers donated for medical research and will soon begin interviewing a shortlist of patients to determine who, if anyone, will be first up for this procedure. From the article: 'The chance it will work is around 50% and experts have expressed safety and ethical concerns about the procedure. The recipient would have to take powerful anti-rejection drugs for life, which carry considerable long-term health risks, says the Royal College of Surgeons of England, which formed a working party to look at the issue earlier this year.'

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  1. Anti-Rejection drugs? by Create+an+Account · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have the feeling that someone that has had a large part of their face burned off in a bad fire isn't going to be too worried about having to take drugs for the rest of their lives. Ethical? Ask the people who need this kind of surgery if THEY think it's ethical.

  2. Good for burn victims by MrJynxx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I suspect this procedure would be great for people who have had extreme burns to their face.

    One thing to note are the anti-rejection drugs. My uncle whose kidneys both failed, had to get one from my father in the early 90's (91 i think) and had to take anti-rejection drugs. Well, the drugs eventually gave him colon cancer (approx. 10 years of heavy use) and passed away 2 years ago. But, without the kidney transplant he would have never made it past 1992.

    It will be a trade off for these people.. potential to live a long life disfigured or a shorted life bearing a new face. Tough call?

    MrJynx

  3. Re:Butterface! by General+Alcazar · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I believe that the demand for this is for people who have seriously disfigured, malformed, or mutilated faces. If half of your face had been eaten away by some kind of bacteria or disease, I think you might think twice about getting this procedure.

    It is probably difficult to comprehend the impact major facial disfigurement can have on a person.

  4. Organ Sales and Forced Removal of Organs by ultraworld · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is already a BIG problem.. China sells the organs of condemmed prisoners - a LOT of innocent people I am sure suffer this.. It could happen here as well if jobs keep disappearing.. If anyone tells you otherwise, they don't know much about power and the powerless.. and how frequently the powerless lose anything of value they have to the rich and powerful..

  5. per Wired by moviepig.com · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wired quotes a release-form the recipient must sign:

    Your face will be removed and replaced with one donated from a cadaver, matched for tissue type, age, sex and skin color. Surgery should last 8 to 10 hours; the hospital stay, 10 to 14 days. Complications could include infections that turn your new face black and require a second transplant or reconstruction with skin grafts. Drugs to prevent rejection will be needed lifelong, and they raise the risk of kidney damage and cancer. After the transplant you might feel remorse, disappointment, or grief or guilt toward the donor. The clinic will try to shield your identity, but the press likely will discover it.

    No free lunch...

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  6. Relatively new application of old ideas by erroneus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Transplanting organs and even external body parts has been an ongoing practice for quite some time. Clearly, they are making small improvements as time goes by and a variety of details have been added as well. But I have to hope there isn't too much research being done into this.

    In my mind (which is a weird place to be at times) I think the future of medical technology is ultimately in regeneration of damaged or missing tissue. In previous medical articles mentioned here, stem cell research has already enabled paralyzed people to walk again and other improvements are just around the corner I'm sure. In addition to that, the research where genetic manipulation of rats have resulted in entire body parts regenerating after having them removed.

    Ultimately, this is advanced forms of healing which is where almost everything in the way of research should be directed, in my opinion, since healing is what the medical practice is all about.

    (And yes, I recognize the need for disease and cancer research as well ... it goes without saying. And I also recognize the fundamental expansion of knowledge of human anatomy and how it works is also a worthy benefit of the activities discussed in face transplant technologies.)

    And on an asside, replacing a face will not make one person look like another. For that, you'd have to manipulate the bones under the skin and muscle to really make modifications that make a difference.

  7. Re:Finally... by Fenresulven · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Personally I'd guess burn victims, but hey, that's just me.

  8. Will scientists every learn from Hollywood? by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think some of these guys should take some time off and watch some movies, then they would realize that building Skynet, virtual reality, and face transplants almost never end happily, just usually in bad sequels!

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  9. Re:let me be the first to say by temojen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    WHAT THE HELL? Who would trade burn scars for 50% chance of death, likelyhood of chronic pain, likelyhood of further disfigurement, and no immune system for the rest of their lives?

    Self-sourced grafts and reconstructive surgery sound like a much better idea to me, but then I'm not even an orderly, let alone a reconstructive plastic surgeon.

  10. Re:let me be the first to say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As opposed to having grafted skin constantly splitting, needing constant cleansing, having you vision restricted by skin flaps, the pain of not having eyelids?

    Maybe Jacqueline Saburido might disagree with you (Detailed story).

  11. Re:Movie about this? by ImTheDarkcyde · · Score: 2, Insightful

    jeez am i the only one who loved that movie for is stunning action choriography? though i whole heartedly agree the story sucks :-P (but its an action movie all the way)

  12. Re:Anyone know... by Seumas · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think this is pretty cool, as long as it isn't used for cosmetic reasons (reconstructive is another thing altogether).

    Actually, let me clarify - I don't have a problem with cosmetic surgery whatsoever - as long as people who have cosmetic (non-reconstructive) surgery don't have children.

    Nobody wants to be with an ugly person. It's a biological and evolutionary thing. It's wrong to take an ugly person and cosmetically make them beautiful so that someone will procreate with them in the long run, continuing to propagate bad genetic material in the species. It's dishonest and dangerous to society.

    I don't have anything against ugly people. I'm a very ugly person myself. It's not like I think we should be executed or anything. I just don't think we should breed.

  13. Discovery Health Documentary by flabbergasted · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Apparently, I am the only person here that watches the Discovery Health channel. Some time ago, DH ran a documentary on face transplants that profiled an event 10 years ago when an Indian girl had her face and scalp amputated by a grass cutting machine. The doctors in India were able to reattach her face. The success gave other doctors the incentive to begin researching the possibility of transplanting faces for the severely disfigured.

    I offer no judgements about whether the procedure is a good idea or not. I just know that I wouldn't deny a well informed individual the right to the surgery.

  14. The Asshole-Libertarian comes out to play by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, the problem is the people who think they have a right to a perfect life - and that someone else should bear the costs.

    That's a hell of a thing to say to someone who has burns on 40% of his body. He doesn't want a "perfect life", he wants to not live in pain and discomfort. Who are you to criticize him for that, as you enjoy a life free of these problems? Try compassion some time, instead of clutching your wallet, fearful you might ever have to help somebody else.

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