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Microsoft In Legal Battle Over Halo 2 Packaging

Gamespot is running an article about a legal battle regarding Halo 2's metal case. From the article: "The suit reportedly claims that G&M was contacted by Microsoft in 2003 and was looking for a company to produce metal packaging for the release of Halo 2. G&M claims that Microsoft sent its case proposals to Viva, a potential rival for the contract and not part of the NDA. According to reports, the Danish design firm alleges that its proprietary technology was used in a Viva case made for Halo 2 and that Microsoft and Viva are in cahoots. G&M is suing for damages and requesting an injunction against both Microsoft and Viva."

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  1. Re:Proprietary technology? by slavemowgli · · Score: 4, Informative

    Welcome to a world where literally everything is copyrighted...

    Fun fact: did you know that buildings are copyrighted to the architects that designed them? There's actually a special exemption that allows you to publish pictures taken of buildings from public ground without contacting the architect first and getting permission. If this didn't exist, any picture taken where a building is visible in the background would be a copyright violation.

    It's a crazy world.

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  2. Re:DOOM3 also came with a metal case. by KDR_11k · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not patent infringement, MS simply asked G&M for a design, G&M sent a proposal, MS took it and contracted another company to produce it. Copyright infringement.

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  3. Bad, Bad Zonk and Gamespot. by hackwrench · · Score: 2, Informative

    What they both posted is basically just rumors without sources.

    Links: http://www.glud-marstrand.com/sw67.aspGlud & Marstrand Website Can't find anything here about the lawsuit. Earlier The Inquirer Article 9-16 as opposed to 9-19, but equally shoddy on the details...no wait, slightly better in that it says the lawsuit is taking place in a washington court. (Washington in this case being a State of the United States).
    Viva's website is harder to pin down.
    A search for Microsoft on Washington's Courts Website, most of which are about the Microsoft Word format... :) tp:wwwcourtswagovfadwhomeWashington Case Search Page...Wants a last name first initial . Don't know how you'd do Microsoft.

  4. Re:DOOM3 also came with a metal case. by j0nb0y · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have WoW:CE. It did not come in a tin box. It came in a very nice box, but it was not tin.

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  5. Packaging = Manufacturing Costs by wilbz · · Score: 2, Informative

    One of the interesting things about packaging in general is that, when it comes to manufacturing, there are numerous products our there where the packaging is more expensive than what it contains. I work in the food packaging industry and I can tell you that the packaging Frito uses for their bags is more expensive than the chips (crisps) they are putting in them. Judging from the Halo2 boxes, I would expect the same to be true (speaking strictly manufacturing costs)

    If MS truly did violate the NDA and take a proprietary box design to a comptetitor, that translates to a significant amount of money (especially when you look at Halo2's sales numbers). If someone were to do something similar in the food packaging industry (e.g. take the plastic film design from one supplier and provide the information to a competitor to have them produce the film more cheaply) the affected company would have their asses in court in a hurry.

    Regardless of the complexity of the item in question, if an NDA was voilated then there should be some sort of reprimand. What's the point of an NDA if it's not enforcable? Corporations would stop any kind of cooperation pretty quickly if they knew any secrets they shared would be readily given to their competitors.

  6. Re:DOOM3 also came with a metal case. by Fareq · · Score: 2, Informative

    not even copyright infringement.

    Violation of a Non-Disclosure Agreement between G&M and Microsoft to NOT SHOW the design to anyone else

  7. Re:Crazy no by cowscows · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, you're fairly wrong. Although a few architects try to function as if they were artists, the average architect does far more than draw pretty pictures. An architect needs to be aware of pretty much all of those little details like fire codes and such, although on complicated projects it's not unusual to consult with a multitude of engineers.

    An architect may ask structural engineers to help size columns and beams and whatnot, but it's generally the architect who decides where they go. Most architects have at least a basic understanding of that sort of thing, and enough education to have an informed discussion about it with engineers. Fire codes are a little more complicated than the number of sprinklers and making sure the doors open the right way. The entire circulation patterns of high occupancy buildings can be massively influenced by fire codes, and you can be sure that an architect needs to be involved in that.

    There are very few architects who have a completely personal and unique "calling-card style". FLW is one of them, a more contemporary example would be Frank Gehry. Styles in architecture generally span time periods more than particular persons, not to say that everyone doesn't have their own ideas. Architecture has a very long history. It'd be very limiting to think of it as "stealing ideas", so instead we call it "progress", and with a few exceptions, most architects are aware of how much they draw from the past, and are happy to see their own innovations and thoughts influence the profession as a whole.

    Copying a building detail for detail is, of course, a slightly different story, but either way, is never good architecture. A well designed building will have made a lot of concessions to its particular location, while at the same time exploiting other properties of the site.

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