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The Future of the iPod

sebFlyte writes "Those of you waiting for a video iPod, an iPod with a radio in, an iPod with Bluetooth in...or in fact an iPod that does anything except play music and have a pretty-but-basic interface, you're likely to be disappointed. According to silicon.com, Steve Jobs and the Apple crew insist that the iPod will remain simple for the time being." From the article: "Whether people want to buy a device just to watch video is not clear - so far the answer's been no. Devices that do video... have not been successful yet. No-one's figured out the right formula."

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  1. THANK YOU APPLE!!! by iamhassi · · Score: 4, Insightful
    thank you soooo much for not trying to throw everything + the frinkin kitchen sink into a device!

    You have no idea how tired I am of these crazy convergence devices that play mp3s, watch movies, take photos, check emails, play games, cellphone, organizer, calender, does GPS... but doesnt do any of them well!

    iPods do one thing and do it very very well, and that's all i want it to do, play music.... oh, and view photos, and really that's even too much on the teeny screen.

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    1. Re:THANK YOU APPLE!!! by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Only Slashdotters think it's an "underdog" in the audio-playing department, and that's just because of Ogg. In every article, someone mentions Ogg. Ogg is irrelevant to the majority of the public. Nobody cares about Ogg!

      A "few select audio formats?" iPods play AU, WAV, AIFF, MP3, M4A, M4P, and Apple Lossless. That's more than enough for the public. Considering the iPod's 80% market share, the public has spoken.

      Only people on this website give a damn about Ogg and would actually call the iPod an underdog at playing audio just because it doesn't play this esoteric audio format that few use.

      I guess I'm just annoyed that someone always chimes in to mention Ogg and gets modded up for it, and to say something as silly as "the iPod is an underdog at playing audio" when it's the top audio player just shows how out of touch some people can be...get over Ogg!

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  2. Ok... by Raindance · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The question is, whatever Apple plans to do, why would they say anything else after this latest ipod (nano) launch?

    You don't cannibalize your business with promises of imminent future products with more capabilities.

  3. Seems silly to me. by kuzb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why would you publish an article on the front page of Slashdot that essentially says "There is nothing happening with ipods right now"? Doesn't it make more sense to say something when there IS something going on?

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  4. It still makes sense by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Right now, the iPod does its "one thing" very well: play music.

    Adding radio would be bad for it since that would detract from Apple's goal to have the iTunes store be the center of all Internet audio traffic - whether that be music, books, podcasts, etc. Right now, they may not *host* all of those files - but they are the gatekeeper, and can use it as a sort of Long Tail approach: if they are the way to all online audio, and the only way out is through iTunes or the iPod, then they control the audio future.

    As for the video side, the biggest issue is "how to do it right" which Mr. Jobs is right to ask. Video would be good for a minority of iPod users. Would I like to see it? Sure - but again, I'm probably in the minority who, while traveling, don't mind looking at a little screen (right now, I rip my DVD's to my PSP for the 4 hour plane flight - when I'm not reading or playing my DS, or, even more likely, trying to sleep).

    Video will take some time, I think. They're building some options into the iTunes store now (movie trailers, music videos, and the like), but distribution is still an issue, even over bandwidth lines.

    My own video dream would be a Tivo like device, where I could order movies or TV episodes I've missed (say, $1 an episode or $15 for the whole season). A device in the living room would either do it all for me through a Tivo like system and either store the movies in my local computer system, let me download them to the movie device and upload to my computer later, or burn them to DVD's. (You know - like the Tivo should, if the damn guys would update their OS X software to support 10.4.)

    Until then, Apple's got a good thing going, and they don't want to muck it up. I'm sure they could have a video iPod out within 60 days just with some changes in the chipsets (I remember an Ars Techana issue over the kind of chips they use now, and how the new genereration of the same chipset supports video with better power options. For all we know, they're used in the iPod Nanos now, so a firmware/software upgrade would add basic video support).

    Perhaps in time the iPod could be used with a special cradle that plugs into the TV so you can take your iMovie made shows over to other people's houses to show off the videos.

    But for now, leave the iPod as it is - it does 90% of what I want it to do now, and the other 10% is so specialized I can supply that need myself.

  5. Re:The more he says no... by captain_craptacular · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They're a big corporation with a good legal department. Both those clues could simply point to Apple keeping their options open.

    I might get flamed for this but I don't really see Apple as a ground breaker. They'll come out with a video player when theres an established marked for one. Theirs will be 10x as cool and work 10x better and therefore the market will expand greatly by their entering it, but they won't create the market. Thats about what happened with the Ipod, it wasn't by far the first portable audio player, it was just cooler and better (and had much better marketing)...

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  6. Re:The more he says no... by /ASCII · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Apple is not a ground braker in that they create markets where none existed. They are a ground breaker in that they launch a product that completely redefines an existing market.

    • The Macintosh was not the first personal computer, but it had a revolutionary new user interface.
    • The iPod was not the first mp3-player, but it had a revolutionary new user interface.
    • iTunes music store was not the first way to download music of the net, but it was the first legal way to download legal music from a large number of labels.
    • OS X was not the first unix-like operating system, but it was a revolutionary mix of unix stability with Apple ease of use.

    I'd argue that looking at a market and finding why the existing products suck and create something that doesn't is much more ground braking than beeing the first to launch a sucky version of an obvious idea. It takes huge amounts of skill to repeatedly make such high quality designs as Apple.
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  7. Laptop by Paul+Slocum · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Mine's got a standard S-video out. It plays regular DVDs, has a big enough hard drive to store a lot of video, and the screen is actually big enough to comfortably watch a movie or TV show, plus it supports HD resolutions. I can even set up the S-Video out as a secondary monitor and watch a movie or TV off of it while I work. As far as I'm concerned, it's the ideal portable video device, and that was a significant motivator for me buying it.

    I don't see any need for it to be smaller. For any place that I actually want to watch video, a laptop will fit just fine.

  8. Re:A 100GB is all I want. by dal20402 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Then why did you buy the CDs in the first place?

    For my 170GB of losslessly compressed, mostly classical music, I bought the CDs because no significant amount of classical music is available online, and if it were, the codec would suck.

    Out of that 170GB, I'd say maybe 10GB is crap, and even that I keep for a reason. The rest is either good or essential -- my "essentials" playlist, which I use compressed on my 60GB iPod, is around 90GB. (A 100GB iPod would fit my collection comfortably if it were compressed to 256k AAC.)

    When you're not dealing with the artificial 4-minute song format collections grow quickly.

    What song do you have the most versions of and what are the differences?

    I have five recordings of Bruckner's 7th: Chailly, Harnoncourt, Szell, and two by Masur (with Leipzig and the NY Phil). I have some specific reason, usually a great reading of a particular moment, for keeping each in the collection. Other than that, I don't have more than three versions of any work, and even duplicates are kind of rare.