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Authors Guild Sues Google Over Print Program

heavy snowfall writes to tell us that The Authors Guild has filed a class action lawsuit against Google. The lawsuit claims that Google's scanning and digitizing of library books as a part of the Google Print Project constitutes "massive copyright infringement". In addition to the lawsuit The Authors Guild has also issued a press release to explain its actions.

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  1. Let me get this straight... by AccUser · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Google Print Program allows me to search the text of books in print, I can see each hit as a book and also the search in context (i.e. browse a sample chapter that contains the search), and Google provides links so that I can purchase the book online.

    Don't these authors want to sell their books? It is not like I can download the whole text (unless I actually knew a set of unique searches that would mean I could access each chapter as a sample), so where is the copyright infringement?

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    Any fool can talk, but it takes a wise man to listen.

  2. What an irritation.... by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This kind of crap just irritates me. Copyright laws are painfully outdated in the digital age, and yet time and time again those who sell information (in whatever format, music, movie, now books) are constantly standing in the way of progress. What we need is the free and unrestricted flow of information. I've looked over Google Print, and i see nothing for these authors to object over. If anything, its a massive windfall for them, its the perfect resource for finding a relevant book on a given topic. Need a book on differential forms and tensor calculus? Thousands and thousands of results. Its essentially free and unlimited advertising. If Google combined this with pblishing on demand, they could put every publisher in existence not only out of business, but do it while offering far better deals for the authors.

    1. Re:What an irritation.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The so-called authors' guild is an organization which considers publishers to be at-large members over the regular membership given to authors. Want to know which group is more important to the guild?

      The point being, don't assume the authors are the ones fearing the change.

  3. Lets hope they lose... by martijnd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let us hope that they lose this one big time. It seems Google already has plenty of safeguards in place.

    Sure, with the convuleted interest ridden mess the copyright system is the Writer Guild might actually win this.

    Because, why would Google be allowed to copy all these books to their hard disks, and then make a mint from advertising by showing peeks of it to searchers.

    They sure aren't paying anyone for the priviledge.

    In university they have pretty big posters against wholesale copying of library books above the photocopiers, with all the usual heavy handed copyright warnings.

    It seems technology, is as per usual, ahead of the law. Google would have to establish some kind of copyright free zone (bit like a tax free export zone) where they can safely process search actions on this huge Alexandria library.

    Better beat around some congress critters to support this as the potential benefit to mankind ( access to all written knowlegde current and past, no matter how insightful or inane) would probably be worthy of "World Wonder" status, and give the society that has it a serious scientific advantage.

  4. Re:Don't know about the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    old in Oxford means pre 1600 ie before anyone went to your country from Europe and killed the natives.

    Typical Oxford whippersnapper. Here in York, `old' means before the Vikings got here. I quite like the modern architecture of the Minster, though.
  5. Re:Don't know about the US by Goth+Biker+Babe · · Score: 5, Funny

    Evidence suggests the Welsh were over there, not murdering people, in the first millenium. Bloody young Norman upstarts.

  6. After thinking a little more, I'm suing Google by GauteL · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've owned several web pages which Google has copied onto their servers via indexing and Google cache.

    They never asked me for permission, and I'm pretty sure they all contained the footer (c) Me, All Rights Reserved.

    In fact, the entire web is copyrighted by numerous authors and corporations, and I'm pretty sure Google has never asked anyone for permission.

    Google can't even hide behind the mantra of not being able to micromanage automatic indexing, because the ENTIRE WEB is copyrighted in some form or another.

    I'm going to completely disregard that my web pages increased in value by Google announcing their presence to the world, and rather sue them for copyright infringement. I'm also suing Microsoft, Yahoo and Altavista.

    Anyone for a class action lawsuit?

  7. Open Letter to the Authors Guild by sprocketonline · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It is with some shock that I read about your latest decision to take legal action against Google, which could, and should, be interpreted as a direct attack against a more progressive and free society.

    Whether or not you approve of Google, the company's "libarary" program has made a bold move towards an age where information is searchable to everyone. The ability to see inside a book, albeit only an excerpt at a time, which is stored deep within a vault on the otherside of the globe has to be a great thing. This assists everyone from casual browsers of the internet to academic reseachers, such as myself. Upon utilising the search engine and associated search algorithms we can look and search within every title and work for relevant information, and disregard the irrelevancies, with no more hassle than a couple of clicks on a browser. This is a far greater model than the overburdening and cumbersome system currently in operation, where books have to be physically sought after, a greatly innefficient, resource consuming and wasteful affair.

    Surely Google's system represents an electronic library bookshelf of infinite size, where the user can browse at will until the relevant material is found. To sue Google is equivalent to taking legal action against the British library for allowing users to flick through books. Libraries also allows users to read the entire text of a book, not merely small excerpts, so surely there is a greater case for taking legal action against the library services of every nation, university and school in the entire world. No such action has been taken, and indeed I pray it would never be.

    Indeed I agree that it is a gray area that Google is a profit making company and will be generating revenue indirectly through advertising, and possibly the sale of hard and electronic copies of the full text. Yet, had the traditional organisations of the book publishing and writing world such as yourselves, the Authors Guild, taken steps to create an electronic source back when the internet was growing the need for Google, a corporation, to do this would have been neglible. Your legal action is not a reaction against copyright infingement but an indicator of failure on your, and your peers, behalf. To prevent access to a searchable library to the entire populous of the world is to hide information and create a teired society, those who have access to the information and those that do not. This is backward and unjust.

    You have failed to provide or encourage authors, your clients, to present their work in a relevant medium, electronic, to the masses, their customers, and as such have stifled your industry, the fallout and backlash is obvious to see when observing the blogging phenomena that has grown in the last few years. The Authors guild has failed to keep up with current technology and culture trends and as such has resorted to hiding behind the somewhat dated copyright laws of your country.

    Whatever your views on the Google corporation it is unjust to take legal action against such a noble scheme and I urge you to revoke your action and change your policies.

  8. Re:Don't know about the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Typical ivory tower crusties.

    Here in Colchester, 'old' means before Boudica kicked Roman arse :-)