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SpecOps Labs offers $10,000 to Emulator Developers

mparaz writes "SpecOps Labs, the makers of the "David" Windows emulator previously accused of ripping off WINE, are offering $10,000 to a team who can build a Windows XP emulator in 15 days. " This whole thing reads really strangely to me.

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  1. Re:10K, Thats all? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's because the story poster needs to read a litte more carefully:

    As
    proof or our sincerity, we are offering US$10,000.00* to the first
    Consultant or Consulting Team who can take our challenge and prove their
    capabilities. Our challenge requires the delivery of a solution that
    will allow an MS-XP compatible application to install and run under
    Linux using x.org and open source WINE
    by October 5, 2005.


    In other words, if you can upgrade WINE to handle a new application in 15 days, they'll give you a $10,000 hiring bonus. At least, that's my interpretation.

  2. Re:Hrm by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Informative

    So if I compile Bochs in less than 15 days I win?

    From the requirements:

    1. System has no proprietary software imbedded / required.

    Loading a copy of Windows XP would be considered "proprietary software".

  3. Re:A from-scratch implementation in 15 days? by tobe · · Score: 2, Informative

    "That's totally impossible. Even if you had a trillion dollars it'd be impossible."

    Totally agree.. that is utterly insane and any team that *could* do it would certainly be worth much more than $10,000

    "more likely, is trying to encourage someone to spend 15 days obfuscating WINE to deliver it to him so he can start selling and then plausibly deny it when it comes up."

    Nail. Head.

  4. Re:15 days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    XP is nt 5.1
    2000 is nt 5.0

    XP was mostly "prettyness" and CPU cycle sucking junk added on top of 2000. It does look like they hacked it together in 15 days. All the underlying stuff is still the same as it was in 2000.

    The grandparent post was accurate as well as a troll.

  5. Re:10K, Thats all? by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Informative

    does that mean _any_ ms xp compatible application?

    "perfect wine for us in 15 days and we'll give you ten grand".

    ************
    Criteria to Award and Conditions:

    1. System has no proprietary software imbedded / required.

    2. System is stable.

    3. MS-XP compatible modules / functions are working as expected.

    4. System becomes the property of SpecOpS Laboratories.
    ************

    extremely vague. you can run some games and applications as expected right now so that can't possibly be what they're after, nor can they be looking for an app that was thought to previously not work but would work now(too easy to find some obscure app).

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  6. An Installer, rather than emulator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This reads (or skims, the way I read it) more like they want an intaller than an emulator. Doesn't it say needs to run on WINE?

  7. Re:I wonder... by nxtw · · Score: 2, Informative
    Nothing, if coLinux is close enough.

    Otherwise, there was a Linux emulator-like program called LINE -- it didn't get very far.

  8. XP OS - Games by SeanDuggan · · Score: 4, Informative

    The game support (and isn't Games why most people running Linux maintain a Windows partition) in XP was better than in 2000, which was supposed to be more of a work OS. And, as useless as they usually are, the "compatibility mode" option for running programs occasionally comes in very handy.

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    1. Re:XP OS - Games by Haeleth · · Score: 2, Informative
      > the "compatibility mode" option for running programs occasionally

      which is also available in Windows 2000 service packs 2 and above


      Apparently it is. I didn't know that until you mentioned it just now; that's because Microsoft have hidden it as carefully as they could, to the extent that you have to run a cryptic command line to enable it. (If anyone else is interested, the details are here.)

      Seriously, the only things that XP has above 2k are:
      • T3h Pr3tt13z (you know, all these useless memory hogging XPThemes shits and playmobil© look&feel hiding anything you may need in places you won't find them)
      • SP2 (firewall, MSIE SP2)
      • IE7 compatible

      • Network bridging
      • Cleartype (distinct from "T3h Pr3tt1ez" in that it's actually useful for making text more readable on modern displays)
      • AppLocale, which is invaluable if you need to run legacy applications in different codepages
      • Multiple desktops
      • Going to get WinFS

      Not that I've bothered to upgrade to it yet myself...
    2. Re:XP OS - Games by UnrefinedLayman · · Score: 2, Informative
      • Wireless network config management
      • Remote Desktop
      • Group Policies unavailable below XP
      • Windows Media Player 10
      • Fast User Switching
      • Better EFS functionality
      • New version of Sysprep, better unattended setup functionality
      • AMD64
      • Integrated CD writing
      • Larger base of hardware compatibility
      But yeah, I mean, if the GP says there's no difference there mustn't be. All the things you and I listed exist only if you know what you're talking about.

      I'm no apologist, but at least I'm not also an idiot.
  9. Full text by mparaz · · Score: 5, Informative

    I made another copy of the text:

    SpecOpS Laboratories

    $10,000 Open Challenge

                            SpecOpS Laboratories (SpecOpS Labs) invites the Philippine ICT Community to participate in the DAVID Project. We are seeking a highly talented Consultant or Consulting Team that can contribute to the DAVID Project.

                            SpecOpS Labs is searching the Philippines for Systems-Level Hacker/s to serve as Development Consultant to the DAVID Project. As proof or our sincerity, we are offering US$10,000.00* to the first Consultant or Consulting Team who can take our challenge and prove their capabilities. Our challenge requires the delivery of a solution that will allow an MS-XP compatible application to install and run under Linux using x.org and open source WINE by October 5, 2005.

                            So, take the challenge now!

    Criteria to Award and Conditions:

    1. System has no proprietary software imbedded / required.

    2. System is stable.

    3. MS-XP compatible modules / functions are working as expected.

    4. System becomes the property of SpecOpS Laboratories.

    Registration Procedure:

    1. Send us an Email indicating your intent to take up the challenge at ablang@specoplabs.com. Attach your CV(s) or company profile (if applicable).

    2. SpecOpS will Email you the Challenge Registration Form and further instructions.

    Challenge Activities:

    1. Present the running solution at SpecOpS Labs office before October 5, 2005.

    2. Validation of solution using SpecOpS Labs's criteria.

    3. Award immediately.

    * All monies in this challenge are subject to tax. The decision of SpecOpS Labs for the award is final.

  10. Re:cheap labour by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Informative

    When you make changes to GPLed software, you still own the changes you make. (Though it can be difficult to weed out the precise ownership when it comes down to minor changes.) You only are forced by the GPL license to provide those changes to others if you distribute a binary to users not internal to your organization.

    Note that copyright ownership *does not* automatically revert to the original author unless you explicity transfer the rights.

  11. Re:you knew it was coming... by Lehk228 · · Score: 4, Informative

    the gif patents have expired

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  12. Re:Obg. Star Trek: by Skadet · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's from "The Ensigns of Command", where that freaky race the Sheliak want to colonize a planet that was given to them in a treaty, but an old Federation colony ship crash landed there generations ago and they don't want to leave.

    The exact dialogue was:

    GEORDI Captain, we can do it! We can modify the transporters.

    PICARD Excellent.

    GEORDI It'll take fifteen years, and a research team of a hundred --

    PICARD (dryly) Mister La Forge, I believe we will postpone.

    GEORDI (with a grin) Yes, sir.

    http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/nextgeneration/seaso n3/tng-302.txt

  13. Re:Obg. Star Trek: by andycal · · Score: 2, Informative

    it was "The Ensigns Of Command" google found it here I'm not enough of a geek that I knew it, but it did sound famliar to me as well.

  14. Re:I'll give $5... by scovetta · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here in Soviet Russia, we used Beowulf clusters of quantum-optical laptops, Windows 2009 (which will be released in 2012). And that was in 1976! Of course, since we're in Russia...
        Our Emulators Emulate YOU!

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  15. Re:Obg. Star Trek: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    The other posters have most of it, but to give it some context, Geordi was trying to get the transporters to punch through some REALLY heavy radiation that would normally turn a transport subject into a pile of smelted glop, so they could evacuate a colony.