Nokia to Become Involved in Eclipse Development

jondaw writes "Builder UK says that Nokia is to become more involved in the direction of the Open Source IDE, Eclipse. 'Nokia has increased its level of involvement in the Eclipse project by becoming a board member and strategic developer. It will take the lead in developing tools for mobile applications based on the Eclipse platform. One if its aims will be to extend the Java-based IDE to have full support for J2ME.'"

Comments

Great news... or is it?

[mikaelhg]

Having used Nokia's horrible, horrible developer tools, I sincerely wish that they will not contribute any code which in any way resembles the current quality of their tools.

Of course, this could be a brand new opportunity for them to turn their sledge around, as they say in Finland.

Re:Great news... or is it?

[Anonymous Coward]

you don't say what the problem with their tools are. i developed applications for series 40 phones and everything they provided worked fine. documentation on the phones was good. emulator had no problems. i used netbeans and netbeans mobility, which i had no problem with (but isn't nokia's tool).

i think if you look at some other phone maker's developers sites you'll be surprised that nokia is probably the best. a lot of other companies have very limited or poor documentation on the phones. i think nokia could make their instructions for getting started clearer. it's a little difficult to get started cause you may not know what all you need to download and how to setup your environment, but all the information is on their site.

i think maybe you had problems with the ide you used and blame nokia. remember all the phone company needs to provide you with is the sdk, documentation, and emulator. there really isn't any other "tools" they provide.

Nokia should fix themselves first

[The G]

One if its aims will be to extend the Java-based IDE to have full support for J2ME.

How about, instead of that, they try to make their own phones have full support for J2ME? Nokia wouldn't know a standard-compliant MIDP implementation if it bit them in the ass, and they actually charge you a couple hundred bucks to report bugs in their phones to anyone with a clue.

I appreciate Eclipse, but none of my company's code can use it. Know why? Because of the huge piles of conditional compilation and build scripts that we need to build separate applications for each of Nokia's phones, because no two have the same set of gross standards-noncompliances; Nokia has done more than any company I know of to make "write once run anywhere" the joke that it is.

Nokia should get their own house in order before they try to grub up open-source PR.

Re:IMHO, I don't think this means much.

[LDoggg_]

What's wrong with phpeclipse ? It's based on the excellent eclipse webtools project.
Seems to do everything I'd expect a PHP IDE to do.

I've even used it on the natively compiled eclipse that comes with fedora core 4