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London Tube Dangerous for Technophiles?

TsukiKage writes "Traveling on the London Tube is dangerous these days, it seems - and not because of terrorists. Quick as ever to try and protect against the attack that has just happened, zealous police will detain you at the drop of a hat." From the article: "The next train is scheduled to arrive in a few minutes. As other people drift on to the platform, I sit down against the wall with my rucksack still on my back. I check for messages on my phone, then take out a printout of an article about Wikipedia from inside my jacket and begin to read. The train enters the station. Uniformed police officers appear on the platform and surround me ... They handcuff me, hands behind my back, and take my rucksack out of my sight. They explain that this is for my safety, and that they are acting under the authority of the Terrorism Act."

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  1. Terrorism Act by OctoberSky · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Terrorism Act = Patriot Act? Its funny, they don't sugar coat it like the US does.

  2. This could be abused to the breaking point by Have+Blue · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The presence of a slightly suspicious person shuts down a train for a few hours? It seems that an organized civil disobedience effort could keep the entire London tube system offfline indefinitely by wearing backpacks and using cell phones in carefully chosen stations and times. How long could that go on before someone realizes it's not preventing terrorism and it's more trouble than it's worth for everyone?

    1. Re:This could be abused to the breaking point by Hatta · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It already has. A completely innocent man has been murdered in cold blood by government agents. Jean Charles de Menezes was shot 10 times, over a period of 30 seconds. Like the fellow in this article, he was doing nothing but his daily routine.

      Count that out. That's 3 seconds inbetween shots:

      BANG!.. one.. two.. BANG!... one... two BANG!.. one.. two.. BANG!

      And that's just 4 shots, there's no way this was anything but cold blooded murder. WAKE UP PEOPLE! You have more to fear from your own government than from terrorists.

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  3. Re:But hey... by Brad+Mace · · Score: 5, Interesting
    It's all ok, because after all, they are not the evil warmongering America, and have free health care. This is who we should be aspring to be like, right? right? Hmm...the usual liberal freaks aren't responding...the silence is deafening.
    Maybe a tinfoil hat will prevent all those evil liberals from finding you

    Or maybe you could realize that most liberals don't hate America, they just want to make it better. You can't make things better unless you look at what's wrong. It also helps to look at what other countries are doing that is working better. Despite the success the Bush Administration and Fox News have had in turning 'liberal' into some sort of insult, most of them are pretty reasonable people.

    Britain is in over-reaction mode, just as the US was after 9/11. Unfortunate, but not suprising. They may get a bit more carried away since they are lacking some of the guarantees our constitution provides, but that doesn't negate other things that they're doing well. Spazzing out as though it did is just silly.

    This should just serve to illustrate how important our civil liberties are, especially in times of crisis. This is why the patriot act was and still is a mistake. Further, the U.S. government is never above criticism. That is our right and our duty as citizens. During wartime, the government should be held to higher standards, not lower ones.

  4. I was searched quite politely on the Tube by Cr0w+T.+Trollbot · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I was in the UK in August, on my way to Heathrow Airport, when a police officer asked to search my suitcase. (Understandable, since it was a large suitcase, and had I been an Islamofascist, I could have packed quite a lot of explosive in it.) He was quite polite about the whole thing, it took less than two minutes, and then he gave me a note describing me and the bag I was carrying in case another officer wanted to stop me.

    Don't know why Mr. May had such a hard time of it. Sounds more like an abberation than a trend, and it's impossible to contruct a trend line from a single point of data.

    Crow T. Trollbot

  5. Re:the defense of liberty by Vellmont · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Very interesting. I've never heard someone quite put it in those terms, but I think you've got it right on. Blind trust of authorities really does stem from fear and thus cowardice.

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