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Why Vista Had To Be Rebuilt From Scratch

iliketrash writes "The Wall Street Journal has a long front-page article describing how Jim Allchin approached Bill Gates in July, 2004, with the news that then-Longhorn, now-Vista, was 'so complex that its writers would never be able to make it run properly.' Also, the article says, 'Throughout its history, Microsoft had let thousands of programmers each produce their own piece of computer code, then stitched it together into one sprawling program. Now, Mr. Allchin argued, the jig was up. Microsoft needed to start over.' And start over they did. The article is astonishing for its frank comments from the principles, including Allchin and Gates, as well as for its description of Microsoft's cowboy spaghetti code culture."

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  1. I know it's feeding, but... by bobintetley · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Will you please stop posting this god-damn troll?

    I've read this text too many times lately and any points you may have had are extremely out of date.

    I personally find it sad that you have nothing better to do than continually post this tripe.

    Loser.

  2. Re:Microsoft should fear FOSS, not google.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Your comment would have had a lot more credibility if you hadn't quoted a load of irrelevent semi-biblical bullshit in the middle of it!

    The mind boggles, it really does. This kind of semi-religious zealotry does more harm than good to the FOSS movement.

  3. Gates IS Napoleon Dynamite by Baldrson · · Score: -1, Flamebait
    Throughout its history, Microsoft had let thousands of programmers each produce their own piece of computer code, then stitched it together into one sprawling program. Now, Mr. Allchin argued, the jig was up. Microsoft needed to start over.

    Yes, and Gates had just the solution: Hire MORE PROGRAMMERS AND PAY THEM LESS!

    Gates Calls for Increase in Tech Labor Supply
    Posted by samzenpus on Wednesday April 27, @06:45PM
    from the give-us-your-huddled-hackers dept. [ United States ] Politics IT
    Randeep Igochyorjob writes "Reuters is reporting that Bill Gates is asking for the removal of quotas for guest workers by removing the caps on non-immigrant alien workers. In a mild attempt at balance, buried near the end of the story, the article also says "Undersecretary of Commerce Phil Bond, a top Bush administration technology official, pointed out that the unemployment rate for engineers is above the national average." I'm wondering if raising wages might attract the "needed" workers from domestic sources or is Gate's request "necessary to remain competitive and innovative"."

    SWEET, Randeep!.

    Re:Unfortunately, Gates is right
    (Score:5, Informative)
    by NaruVonWilkins (844204) Neutral on Wednesday April 27, @10:16PM (#12368536)
    I live in Seattle. I don't code, I'm a PM - but I know plenty of out-of-work coders who aren't even offered an interview because they don't have the right bullshit "keywords" on their resumes. Some of the people I know can write assembly, build synthesizers from scratch, and handle kernel mode Windows coding. Guess what? They aren't finding jobs. It's not because they "aren't looking hard enough", it's because they're being offered $40-50k for $70-80k worth of work, and they won't take that shit.

    IDIOT!!!

  4. Re:That explains a lot by vcv · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Thank you for the insight Captain Makeshitup.

  5. Re:That explains a lot by DrSkwid · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I think it was Dave Presotto that said :

    "Linux, by amateurs, for amateurs."

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  6. Re:That explains a lot by caspper69 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Which means you don't use your computer to make money (or at least not much of it). Because if you did, you'd be a hypocrite, and a thief. You can't steal raw materials to make a widget, why should you steal the tools to make you a living.

    Oh yeah, you're probably making fanboy websites and animated GIFs and avatars for your 3l337 forum.

    I need to stop responding to the trolls!

  7. Re:And Microsoft rule by CrossChris · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    4000 coders * 18 months, We could rewrite the program that runs this solar system!

    No. Some coders could write an operating system in 18 months - the ones MS employ probably couldn't! The guys at MS have had the creativity (and their innate abilities) knocked out of them by the corporate machiine. The typical productivity of an MS coder is less than one tenth of that on the "outside".

  8. GOD told me to tell you the MARKET is HOLY by Baldrson · · Score: -1, Flamebait
    "MARKET", eh?

    A true anarcho-libertarian would have no problem with maintaining an association owning a territory within which there was no restriction on free trade but which would make decisions more restrictively about what things would be bought and sold, and who could enter the association. He would also have no problem with that associations bylaws requiring that shareholders vote about critical changes to such restrictions. When the IT industry spent hundreds of millions of dollars to buy off the "proxies" of the shareholders -- otherwise known as representatives of the people -- to import huge numbers of H-1b programmers since the 1990s, a fraud was perpetrated against the shareholders.

    You aren't for a free market. You're for fraud.

  9. Re:Oh please by nmb3000 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    You are a complete and utter fool. It's a pity that Slashdot harbors so many blind fanboys.

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  10. Re:Mac OS X not that modular by leandrod · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    it makes me expect them to back up their performance with something substantive

    I am not here to show knowledge. And it doesn’t take deep expertise to know that the difference between a monolithic kernel and a multisserver microkernel goes much beyond dynamic vs static linking.

    More to the point, it is not about source code modularisation (avoiding spaghetti code etc) but about extensibility, flexibility... thinks like Hurd translators, multiple personalities etc.

    But why am I talking to you? You are a self-important know-everything bully.

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    DA, DBA, SysAdmin, Data Modeller
    GNU Project, Debian GNU/Lin
  11. Aaaargh! Microsoft is Good - on Slashdot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Heaven save us - Microsoft friendly comments on Slashdot? What's next, an Indian person that doesn't smell like curry? French person that shaves and uses deodorant? Native person that doesn't sniff either glue or gasoline?

    I guess hell is about to freeze...

    I, for one, welcome our Microsoftian overlords! Heil Gates and his monkeyboy Ballmer!