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Spider-Man 3 Villains: Sandman & Venom

datemenatalie writes "As posted on ComingSoon.net, "Kirsten Dunst confirmed rumors to Zap2it that Thomas Haden Church will play Sandman and Topher Grace is Venom in director Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 3." As written, ""We have really great people though as the villains in this film, Thomas Haden Church and Topher Grace -- Venom and Sandman," said Dunst, who plays Mary Jane Watson in the Spidey films. "Maybe I wasn't supposed to say that," she added before reversing her claim. "It's the other way around. You're right," she conceded to a journalist." Spider-Man 3 is set for release on May 4, 2007."

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  1. Bad news by bman08 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's when they start putting multiple big names in villain roles that these superhero franchises usually start to go straight to hell. Everybody wants screen time even at the expense of comprehensible storyline. Case in point, Batman and Robin, the worst movie ever made.

    1. Re:Bad news by WormholeFiend · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I guess the X-men movies are the exception?

    2. Re:Bad news by hahiss · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Please, you guys aren't even trying hard! Have you only seen movies from the last 10 years?

      Try ``Manos" or ``Daddy-O" or ``Beyond the Valley of the Dolls" or ``Assault of the Killer Bimbos" or the sequels to ``Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" or ``Reefer Madness" (which is boring as all get out) or hell, even Star Wars, Episode I. . . .

      The usual candidate auteur of Cinema Meirde is Ed Wood, but I think his films have an incompetent genius to them. (Few agree, though.) You might try ``Plan 9 From Outer Space", his most famous film, but ``Bride of the Monster" and ``Glen or Glenda" are also worth a whirl.

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    3. Re:Bad news by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A supervillian can have superpowered henchmen. Henchmen are unlimited. (Provided they are used as background characters.)

      Actually, I think the orgnial point is a specific case of a general rule: A movie can have no more than two-three main characters, before it starts to suck. This is in essence based on the fact that it takes some screen time to devlop a character, and there is only so much time in a movie. So, any time you have more than two or three main characters you end up underdeveloping one or all of them. If you underdevelop one, they are no longer a main character. If you underdevelop all, your movie just became trash.

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  2. Geez.... by JoeLinux · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Topher Grace as Venom? He's so small/weak. The only thing that would be worse is if they cast his clone Tobey Mcquire as Spiderma....oh....wait.

    Seriously, I can see Topher being absolutely evil in the role of Venom, with just enough humor to be scary.

    I never understood what Sandman's story was...anyone care to enlighten me?

    1. Re:Geez.... by GodHead · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Spiderman = Peter Parker = timid geeky nerd-type.

      Venom = Eddie Brock = Psycho ex journalist, built like a linebacker, competition-level power-lifter.

      Venom wasn't just some evil version of spiderman, he was better than spiderman - stronger, faster, able to beat his spidey-sense.

      Worst. Casting. Ever.

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  3. Mary Jane Watson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Dunst, who plays Mary Jane Watson in the Spidey films

    It should say: Dunst who plays Kirsten Dunst in every film that she has ever done.

    She's perky but that's not acting.

  4. And with that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ....they kill the entire franchise.

    Stuffing 2 or 3 villians in with no time to develop the characters, especially the Venom character is the dumbest idea ever. Didn't they watch the Batman movies after the first one?

  5. Any guy can play Venom... by Regnard · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In the comics, Venom is composed of an alien symbiotic suit and the person, Eddie Brock. The Venom persona does look very muscular, but I think the alien symbiote would have a great part in giving Venom his menacing form.

    My theory is that in the movie, Topher Grace will get "beefed-up" by the alien symbiotic suit.

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  6. Re:Old & incomplete news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I suspect that the movie will merge the characters of Venom and Carnage.

  7. You think casting is a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Venom was the creation of the costume/alien that Spider-Man picked up during the Secret Wars which, likely, never happens in Raimi's Spider-Man universe. So keeping faithful to the origin in casting is useless when the origin is going to be altered.

  8. Kirsten Dunst by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anyone ever get the feeling that Kirsten doesn't really "get" Spider Man or comic books in general?

    http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php?date=2004-07- 16

  9. Re:Topher Who? All I care about is Campbell. by Viper+Daimao · · Score: 2, Insightful

    in spidey 2, campbell said he would be the one to defeat spidey, and in a way he did. So one would expect there to be a little bit of truth to his claim now that he will be Spider-man. Maybe posing as a fake spidey for a bugle hackjob or something.

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  10. Re:"2-3 main characters, before it starts to suck" by ikkonoishi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Lord of the Rings had two main characters; Frodo and Aragorn. The rest of the characters were supporting roles to one or the other.