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Hurricane Relief - What Would You Bring?

andyring asks: "In a few weeks, I will be going with a group from my church down to some of the hardest-hit areas in Louisiana and Mississippi to volunteer in the Hurricane Katrina relief efforts. We will be there six days, and have 10 people going so far. At this point, I don't know much more than we'll be in either Slidell, La. on the northeast shore of Lake Ponchartrain, or Pass Christian, Miss., right on the Gulf Coast near Gulfport/Biloxi. Not knowing what we'll be faced with, and having somewhat limited room for supplies, tools and equipment (probably a U-haul trailer), what would you bring on a journey such as this? Any Slashdot readers between Lincoln, Neb. and the New Orleans area interested in contributing to our effort, such as donations of equipment/supplies/tools/etc?"

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  1. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Informative

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  2. what would you bring? by wingman358 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'd check out the Red Cross website or something. Or perhaps you could check this out, some good ideas there.

  3. Some supplies by TEMM · · Score: 4, Funny

    Lets see... Hammers, Nails, Chainsaw, good old handsaw, axes some saw horses stuff you dont need electricity for.

  4. Essentials by crimoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Personally I'd bring...

    Food
    Water
    Shelter (canvas tents, large)
    Tools (Tarps, gloves, hand saws, hammers, crowbars)
    Large Commercial-grade trash bags
    Cheap duffle bags / backpacks
    Bicycle(s)

  5. Why, what else?!?! by MightyMait · · Score: 5, Funny

    All your favorite Linux distros so you can "secure" all the Windows machines you find.

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  6. TWO WORDS. by eosp · · Score: 5, Funny

    Duct tape.

  7. take a brick wall, baseball bat by puzzled · · Score: 5, Informative


        You'll need a brick wall to bang your head and a baseball bat might help with federal officials. I volunteered, I rounded up some donated equipment for wireless ISPs who flocked to the area, and they totally got the run around from FEMA. A group of twenty five traveled to Kelly AFB on their own dime to lay in a phone system for evacuees and SBC had done the deed two days before they got there. FEMA coordination indeed!

        If you're doing bricks & mortar stuff you'll probably get a lot further, but the technology relief stuff is just a joke - its going to be total pork barrel for the Haliburton sized companies of the world.

        Good luck!

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    1. Re:take a brick wall, baseball bat by Comatose51 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Amen! I volunteered at the Dallas Convention Center a week after the storm. I can't say enough times how I HATE FEMA. They couldn't get their network connections works for a few days so we ended up doing their job by registering people on the FEMA site on our donated computers. One day, they just commandeered our PCs.

      One of them told us, "People don't need Internet and email. They need money!" Yes, they need money but they also need to find their family too! You have no idea how helpful the Internet was to those people in locating each other, even though most were computer illiterate and had us operate the computers. Many thanks to Yahoo and MSNBC. The MSNBC site was extremely helpful the first night they got to Dallas because the Red Cross site wasn't very easy to use. It was a general disaster victim registration site that was slow and required your mother and father's names. Then by other organization's good intentions, we ended up with multiple sites that we need to search to find people. Finally Yahoo stepped in and created a web search that would search all the major ones.

      Anyways, to the original poster, if you have no experience don't go! Donate material and help collect them but you won't be much help.

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  8. Everything you will need for 12 days, plus by tlambert · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everything you will need for 12 days, plus everything you will be bringing on top of that to help out. This includes food, water, shelter, fuel, a spare tire for the U-Haul, etc..

    The very worst thing you could do would be to arrive there and become part of the problem instead of part of the solution.

    It might also help if you got an invitation from officialdom, with some idea of where they think they need to put resources first, so that you maximize your value, and have written official sanction to even be in the area you can show to the guards at the blockades.

    -- Terry

  9. Boots not shoes. by nlinecomputers · · Score: 4, Informative

    Comfy shoes implies to me your typical sneaker/running shoe. Bad idea. You may be stepping in alot of debris. Things that can be sharp like glass, nails, and so forth. You'll want a sturdy set of work boots. Perhaps even steel toed shoes. Bring a hard hat as well for the same reason. You'll do them no good if you get injured trying to help them out.

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    1. Re:Boots not shoes. by twilightzero · · Score: 5, Informative

      From the perspective of someone who currently works for Habitat for Humanity and has a lot of experience on this sort of thing, I would highly reccommend steel toed boots. The hard hat I tend to be a bit less picky on, as they'll only really help you in places you don't have to bend over much and will be ducking under things. I'd say throw a few in just in case but usually I just go with a regular cotton bucket hat.

      As far as tools and things, here's the (non-definitive) list that I would reccommend:
      -Shovels (1 per person, round point)
      -Crow bars/wrecking bars
      -Breaker bar (looks like a giant steel pole with a point or chisel on the end)
      -Hammers (lots)
      -Nails (several boxes each of 8 penny, 16 penny, 16 penny duplex)
      -Good cordless tools with plenty of backup batteries (I'd reccommend at least 18 volt if you can get them, get enough batteries that you can charge at night)
      -Generator if someone owns one already (very handy)
      -Wheelbarrow or two
      -Sawzall or equivalent tool of destruction (2 if you can get them)
      -LOTS of good leather gloves (go for full leather, do not get fabric-backed or cotton jersey. They just won't stand up. You can get decent leather gloves here at $22/dozen)
      -LARGE water cooler - I'd reccommend a good Rubbermaid or Igloo jobsite cooler with associated plastic/foam glasses

      That's a good start for a list. If you want more advice drop me an email with SLASHDOT in the title at the email addy on my account. I've done quite a lot of this sort of work before. Wish I could come with you but I'm stuck here :\

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    2. Re:Boots not shoes. by shawb · · Score: 4, Informative

      What you'd really want is a pair of Redwing 2245's. Kinda expensive, but the best piece of footwear I've ever seen. Extremely durable. Waterproof ABOVE the boot for short periods of time in my experience camping in the Minnesota boundary waters (IE accidentally stepping in water and quickly pulling your foot out, or even briefly fording shallow water, socks will stay completely dry below the bootline.) Extremely light, not very clunky. VERY comfortable... Once the boots are broken in your feet won't hurt even after a day of walking on concrete carrying heavy construction materials. Grips great on just about any surface...

      Biggest problem you'd probably run into is enough time to break them in. It takes about a day or two of walking before they're really comfortable (Although non-broken in Red Wing shoes/boots seem to be at least as comfortable as a cheap pair of boots.)

      Although I suppose the most important thing to have down there is a contact... someone who knows were help is needed, where to get supplies, knows somewhere you can stay, etc. Without knowing someone, you won't be able to actually get anything productive done, possible even just getting in the way. Red Cross, local churches, or government organizations may be the best place to look for contacts if you don't have any yet at this point.

      Besides that, lots of fresh drinking water (for you and for people you are helping), non-perishable food, basic hand tool kit. Make sure to pack enough toiletries for yourself. A good reserve of hard cash for gas on the way, plus buying those things you forgot is also a must.

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    3. Re:Boots not shoes. by twilightzero · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Your comments are both intelligent and applicable, unfortunately they're also totally impractical. Habitat for Humanity has a very limited budget that's I believe almost entirely made up of donations. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have the money to put together 4x4 or 4x6 framed homes, but that costs TONS of money. Pine is the basically the only wood used for construction any more because all of the hardwoods have been priced WAY WAY out of reason. For instance, a 2x4 8 ft pine board runs around $3.50 or so. The same board of oak, no splits, would run at least $80 or so. I'm not talking a 5% increase, I'm talking a 20x increase or more. Even pine beams are exhorbitantly expensive these days.

      There has been some talk of switching to either steel stud/joist construction or ICF (Insulated Concrete Forms) for most Habitat affiliates, but both take a lot of planning and some specialized tools. Also both cost more than wood frame and therefore are rather sticky points for budgeting. The Habitat affiliate I work for has recently done two houses partially in ICF and it works very very well, however we had to raise the final cost of the house by $5,000 and I believe we're eating another $3,000 or so of cost just for using those forms. I sincerely hope they come down in price very soon because they're VERY stable and relatively easy to work with. But I'm babbling...

      In short, we'd love to build something heavier, but unless someone ponies up the money for it and also sends the expertise to work with the stronger materials, we're stuck doing pine stick-built houses...

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  10. Adams said it best by Valarauk · · Score: 5, Funny
    A towel is about the most massively useful thing your going to be able to bring.

    :)

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  11. Re:Hmmm by maotx · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't forget a radio. From what I hear the Freeplay lifeline radios are great.
    They do not require any batteries, picks up AM, FM, and Shortwave, designed to withstand "harsh conditions", and is powered by solar and/or wind-up. That and if you purchase one they automatically donate another to the Freeplay Foundation to help orphaned children in Africa.

    Next step up would be to have a ham license so you could talk back. Although...in an emergency I'm not sure how strict the FCC would be if you didn't have one.

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  12. Re:The only thing you need... by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't bring your bibles. These people need real actual help, they don't need folks coming down there with ulterior motives trying to convert them.

    Don't you think maybe there are some folks over there who already are Christians and would like a copy of the bible to replace one that was destroyed?

  13. Safety Supplies by dschl · · Score: 4, Informative
    Steel toe / steel shank, and the boot should go above the ankle. There will be plenty of trip hazards, and you'll be out of action with an ankle injury in low-cut footwear. Safety glasses / goggles are mandatory, as are leather gloves. First aid kits and someone trained in first aid is also a good idea for any jobsite.

    Worksites are dangerous. I can only imagine the carnage if you set loose a bunch of weekend warrior office workers with power tools and hurricane-damaged buildings. Make sure you have someone experienced in the type of work to provide a full daily orientation, along with tool and worksite safety training, and supervision to ensure that you don't injure yourselves. You don't want to add to the problem by becoming a burden on local medical resources, rather than helping out as you had planned.

    You need some idea of what you'll be doing before you can properly plan. Will you be clearing damage, and demolition? Then you'll want chainsaws, chop saws, wrecking bars, etc. Will you have electricity (generator or powerlines), or will you want to bring as many gasoline powered tools as possible. But most importantly, you need some people who know what they're doing. Plan your work. Prethink each task before starting it. Stop and think (Exxon safety slogan) during each task.

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  14. Our church list may help... by CommandNotFound · · Score: 4, Informative
    I just received an email from our church who is sending another crew down this weekend. Here are some items they requested. This may help:

    rice, soy sauce, ramen noodles/soup packs, pre-sweetened drink mix (Kool-Aid, Crystal Light, Gatorade, etc.), shovels, rakes, and hoes.

    I was down there helping my brother and family, and here's some things I would suggest:
    • Many handkerchiefs. Use them to cover your face when you're shoveling foul water/mud/spoiled food, although bad food is probably largely gone by now. Also good as do-rags and sweat rags.
    • Plain water will get boring quickly, so bring some gatorade mix and mix it half-strength.
    • A small (2-3ft) crowbar
    • A utility knife and blades
    • A hammer, philips, and flathead screwdriver
    • Pliers
    • Get a cheap leather tool belt from Harbor Freight, Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. so you're not always looking for the above tools
    • Several pairs of gloves, including at least one pair of heavy latex/rubber gloves.
    • Of course, remind your planners to bring plenty of fuel, food, and water. And chainsaws. :)

    Those are the things I used the most often when I was down there. Most of all, don't approach the coast with a feeling of dread. Unlike what the media has portrayed and focused upon in a few areas in New Orleans, the attitudes of the people there are upbeat and industrious, if a little haggard. The physical destruction is as bad or worse than portrayed on TV, but the "people" situation is much more positive. Mississippi Coast'ians (I'm one of them) are survivors.

    BTW, thanks for the help on behalf of those directly affected (I live several hundred miles inland and so wasn't affected). FEMA is doing a fantastic job, but the job is so large that churches and other volunteer groups are needed to fill in the gaps. For instance, my grandmother had an Indiana church group clean out several pecan trees that were down in her front yard last week. We couldn't find an available crew to hire for it, and they just showed up out of the blue and did it for her! It really makes a difference.

    BTW, parts of Slidell should have power now, and I know Picayune has full power (15 mins. from Slidell on the MS border). If you need accomodations, check with First Baptist of Picayune, and they may be helpful. I noticed from their website that Beatrice in Nebraska is the adopted "sister city" of Picayune for the disaster, so you may can use resources from both those cities if you need it. Beatrice Link

    You're not only doing God's work, but that of a fine American. Thanks.
  15. Ignore the parent poster by BurntHombre · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And bring your Bibles. Be prepared to share the hope that is in you with these people. Feed them, clothe them, give them shelter, and heaven forbid you neglect their spiritual needs.

    God bless!

  16. Re:don't go by CommandNotFound · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sorry, but that is simply wrong. It takes little training to clear debris, cut trees and limbs, rip out sheetrock, etc. Yes, you could get hurt, probably just minor cuts and bruises, but it's not much different then cleaning your yard, just on a larger scale. Just don't crawl under downed trees or get near power lines.

    I'm not pointing you out with this statement, but the notion that it takes an "expert" to help people is a bad one, IMO. The American way (at least down South, still, and probably in the Mid-West) is to roll up one's sleeves and get to work without waiting for the "authorities" or Uncle Government to arrive.

    The original poster will do fine; he will help several families, learn about an area of the country he may never have seen before, learn new skills, and gain a lot of intangibles from the experience. But be a hindrance or liability? Nah...

  17. Re:don't go by pNutz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Neither do you, certainly not one of this size, or you would know people need all the help they can get.

    Can you use a hammer? Great, then you can frame a house.
    Can you use a shovel? Great, then you can help clean the two feet of mud out of some peoples' houses.
    Can you talk to people on a phone? Great, then you can help relay calls to relatives in different shelters or shore up the help lines at utilities' or relief orgs' call centers. You see, most people who really need to can't go to www.fema.gov or the like.
    Can you spare some plastic containers/chest-like things? Building materials? Cleaning supplies? Shovels, axes, chainsaws, drills... no clothes please, by the way. We've got quite enough.
    Do you know how to build/fix any part of a house? If you do, could you show me and others?
    Could we have some jobs? You don't have to be Halliburton to bring business down here.

    We need long term help, especially. Medical care, jobs, schools, houses, neighborhoods. The Military just get people off their roofs and make sure they don't starve or kill each other. The Red Cross if for emergency relief, and who knows if they'll share their overly large (70%) share of the donations. FEMA is for, apparently, acting as a political lightening rod and blaming Ray Nagin for everything.

    Anything will do. People that "know what they are doing" are doing a shit job of it. People who have seen whats happening and just come down to do whatever they can have done the best job. By far.

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  18. Parent poster makes a good point by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if you seem to help people "to convert them" you're only bringing a bad testimony, like Jehova's Witnesses who seem kind in the beginning, but at the first sight of rejection they run away.

    Some christian hints:

    For people who believe in God / Jesus, and are in doubt (repeat: IN DOUBT), you can tell them that it was God / Jesus who brought you there. God acts thru kind acts of people. But I'd say it's wiser to let them draw their own conclusions.

    It wasn't God who brought the destruction to the people - but the ineptitude of people in the government and those who decided to build a city below sea level. Global warning is the result of greedy men (i.e. sinners) polluting the air, so this makes a good defense against the idea that "God destroyed their houses in his wrath etc etc".
    But then again, I'd recommend you to keep silent about this, unless you want to be seen as another one of the bible thumpers out there.

    Tolerance (specially towards those who reject christianity) is the sign of a true christian, because Jesus helped the heathens, and was merciful with all.

    St. Francis of Assisi, said: "Preach the Gospel. Use words if necessary". The greatest way to preach the gospel is to do what Jesus would do: Love and help those in need. Remember St. Paul's words: If I have the gift of prophecies, but no love in me, I'm useless.

    If possible, don't mention christianity at all. Just mention the name of the community if you're asked. Remember what Jesus said: Do not do good deeds and proclaim them over the skies. Don't let your left hand know what your right hand does.

  19. GET A TETANUS SHOT by redtest · · Score: 4, Informative

    Make sure to get at least a tetanus shot. You may also want to begin your hepatitis A and B vaccination sequences soon enough before you go to make sure that they provide some resistance. also, bring some sturdy gloves (leather), bottled water, and food. Just make sure to get those shots.

  20. Power inverters by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Generator if someone owns one already (very handy)

    If you don't have a generator (and even if you do), power inverters can be real useful... These things can take 12Volt powr and provide 110 for things ranging from laptops to power tools. This means that they can run off of your car's battery and generator. Xantrex (formerly statpower) is who I know, but there are now many other similar suppliers of these things... They start at about $40, and can be found at places like Radio Shack. They're invaluable when you're mobile/remote/stranded or just plain out of mains power (to steal the british saying).

    They range from a tiny 75watt unit that can plug into your accessory outlet, and should handle most chargers and laptops to units over a kilowatt that will probably need to be wired direct to your electrical system (presuming that it's even robust enough to drive the monster at full load).

    Once you've got that, I'd also suggest a couple of jell cells, for running things that want mains power when you're in places like a hotel room with no power (you can charge them off of the vehicle power during the day). I wire mine with a 12-volt accessory plug (make sure to put a fuse on it). You can often get them out of small dead UPSs.

    You can use them when you're mobile, and after you've placed your larger generators where they're most needed. I first came up with the idea in my tree-hugging days when I needed to charge a video camera battery at a logging protest and the only power I had access to was an RCMP vehicle.

    If you haven't already thought of it: communications equipment, including hand-radios. I wouldn't presume that cell phone service id reinstated wherever you're going.

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  21. What to bring ... by pvera · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was born and raised in Puerto Rico, so I went thru a handful of nasty hurricanes, including two Cat 5s. Here's what I would do if I had to spend any time in a disaster area like that:

    1. You want it, you carry it. Assume there is nothing available. That means stock up on asthma medicine, painkillers, contact lenses, whatever it is that YOU need. This is before you worry about what to bring to others.

    2. Footgear: Ideally you should be wearing sturdy waterproof footgear, boots if possible. Sneakers are a no-no. You can easily twist an ankle stepping over debris, and a nail will pierce thru your sneaker soles as if it is not even there. Plus you don't want to get your feet wet in that kind of environment. Carry extra socks and foot powder too.

    3. You can't carry too many batteries or too many ziploc bags.

    4. Carry some wet wipes, these are very handy and can be used for many things. Get a couple packs with something like aloe vera and a couple with clorox, lysol, etc.

    5. Flood areas, especially in the south, have terrible mosquito control issues. Repellent sucks but still beats the alternative.

    6. Unless you have solid housing arrangements, that is, unless you know you are sleeping at an air conditioned room, find a mosquito net. Sure, it will be hot as hell, but I would rather be hot and without bug bites.

    7. Fluids! Unless specifically arranged for, you have to assume there is no drinking water available. When Hurricane Hugo struck Puerto Rico in 1989 I had to drink warm coke for about 5 days. We had plenty of stuff to drink, but we were told to not trust water, period.

    In my case the worst was the lack of electricity and potable water. Our house was hurricane-proof, so if it flooded all we had to do was hose down the walls (cement) and floors (marble), repaint and replace furniture and appliances. That means that once the flooding receded we could go back to clean the house and make it habitable again instead of having to stay at a shelter and risk getting sick.

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  22. Re:Hmmm by Fjornir · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is in response to your comment but largely addressed to the submitter -- maotx, please don't take the "you" personally in all of this. :)

    It's my feeling that every geek should get their ham license. It costs $14 and it's good for 10 years. The study guide for the technician license is published by the arrl and it's called "Now You're Talking". Given that most geeks already know ohms law and how to handle simple wavelengthfrequency conversions you've almost passed right there. Beyond that there's a lot of really obvious stuff ("Why should you wear a hardhat and safety glasses when helping someone work on a tower?" "Er. To protect my eyes and my head..." ). The exam is given in a multiple choice format -- any answer which includes the phrase "control operator" is correct.

    Even if you know jack-shit about radio you'll come close to passing just by picking the "correct-looking" answer off the test. SAT style guesswork. Large portions of the exam can easily be gamed: they publish all of the questions, right answers, and wrong answers which will appear on your exam. The hardest part (unless you're really good at rote memorization) is probably memorizing the beginning and end frequencies of each of the bands. This is easy to game because of all of the answers which will appear on your exam only one of them will have the correct width for the band. AA9PW has practice exams on his website. Try it and you'll be amazed at how close you are to passing right now. A single night of study will bring you up to a passing mark.

    Don't try and skip on the exam and operate without a license. If you're seriously putting together a convoy to go into the area you can easily get a licensed operator to come in with you and handle any radio contacts on your group's behalf. If you don't know a ham then look up a local club on the ARRL -- or call a local fire department or hospital and ask for the contact information for the local ARES/RACES group. Odds are one of them would love to go down with you -- and will be an extra set of hands. The HAM you get to go with you will probably have a lot better emergency equipment than your group will -- and will have already spent a lot of time drilling for emergencies.

    73 DE KE7EWX

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  23. Additional Things you might need by sasha328 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I agree with the parent post. I am a volunteer in our state's Emergency Service organisation, and I can think of a couple more things you might need.
    You haven't clarified what exactly you'll be tasked to do (rebuilding/helping the refugees, cleanups etc.) Still, I'll chip in with a few more suggestion, keeping in mind all you have is a trailer.

    - Blankets: handy for a lot of things.
    - Plastic Tarulins (and a roll of the heavy duty plastic sheets)
    - Some ropes (the synthetic tie down ropes get a couple of rolls, and some hauling ropes (sythetic or natural fibre ones)
    - Lots of (gaffa? or duct tape) very handy.
    - Brooms and rakes.
    - Spare boots and socks (unless you can obtain them locally)
    - A ladder, I would recommend a Folding ladder: can be made into a step ladder or a long one.
    - Drinking water containers (and water if you can, minimum 4 litres per person per day since you'll be "working" in a hot/humid place)

    If you restrict the trailer to only equipment, you'll have a decent amount of essential tools/supplies for tasks in disaster areas. I'm assuming for a group of 10, you'll be going in a convoy or at least a bus. Keep personal gear in your cars and spare the trailer for equipment and tools.

    One piece of advice I'd give you though. Working in disaster areas is not easy, especially when you are dealing with people who have lost a lot. Although it is easy to "say it", try not to get overwhelmed by the scale of things. Concentrate on your immediate tasks, and forget everything else while doing it. Also, it may not come naturally, you should appoint a "team leader" if you don't already have one. Makes running jobs much more smooth.

    Good luck,

    1. Re:Additional Things you might need by jdbear · · Score: 5, Informative

      I just got back from a week working in the Swingster Distribution Center in Ocean Springs, Mississippi. 16 of us went down and worked in the center helping them to receive, organize and distribute supplies to the victims of the Hurricanes.

      I learned several things while I was there. It is hot, and the work is hard. You simply can't drink enough water. By the end of the day, we would be sucking down a quart of water every 15 minutes, and didn't stop until a couple of hours after the "work day" was over. Keep this in mind.

      The Gulf Coast region, with the exception of New Orleans, is in pretty good shape as far as public services are concerned. We were a half mile from the ocean, and were working in a sound building with power and water. I actually didn't make it into the building very often, mostly working in the yard unloading trucks or moving supplies.

      Just about everything that was actually on the coast was destroyed. Those houses that were not completely devistated were damaged severely and will need massive reconstruction efforts. The houses just a little distance away from the coast, a quarter to a half of a mile or more, were not destroyed, but still suffered some sort of damage. The wind did some damage to roofs, knocked down trees, fences, etc, but the biggest problem was still water damamge.

      Several of my crew left the distribution center one day to help an elderly gentleman "muck out" his house. He was 80 years old, mostly blind (he had 15% vision) and was trying to clean up/repair his home by himself with no tools and no power. He'd sent his wife away because the house wasn't safe to be in.

      The houses have water damage. This means that everything that was under 5 feet off the ground was soaked in water, and is now molding and rotting. It has to be torn out and carried to the street for the trash crews to pick up. Furnature, clothing, electronics, bedding, linens, pillows, appliences, TV's,... you name it, it's ruined.

      The biggest job is just removing the trash. Once it's gone, the house has to be cleaned with bleach or some other mold inhibitor. Dishwashing gloves come in handy. Once cleaned, it can be rebuilt, and that is a fairly straightforward construction job. Any damaged framing must be replaced, drywall goes up, flooring goes down, trim and moulding goes in.

      There is also "yard work" that needs to be done. Some homes have already fixed this problem. They look like nothing has happened. It has been several weeks, so if their house was not too badly damaged, they had time to fix the yard up. Others look like a war zone. There is debris of every imaginable kind there. I could show you some pictures. I found a microwave oven with a crab living in it, next to a torn street sign. 10 feet over, there was a Grand Piano laying upside down.

      There are crews that move through the streets with large grapplers and trucks to haul away the debris. They take it to a central point where it's piled up. The piles are HUGE. While I was there, I ate meals along side crews that did nothing but cut up downed limbs with chainsaws. Other crews then moved the cut wood to the street. It's a massive effort.

      That they need most is people willing to go and work, and not be picky about the job that needs to be done. I am not a manual labor kind of guy. I'm a computer geek and work in Infrastructure Problem Management, which means that I sit at a desk all day and talk on the phone for a living. Still, the job that they needed at the time involved moving large numbers of heavy boxes. That's what I did.

      When you go to help, just do the job that needs doing. Don't worry too much about having everything that you need with you. There are TONS of supplies there. They may not be easy to find, but they are there. People have been shipping tools and supplies to the Gulf Coast area for weeks. What we need are PEOPLE getting involved.

      David

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      If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
  24. Here's what we really need... by humankind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm down here in the middle of this mess. I've been helping with rescue efforts. The rescue efforts are over. The relief efforts are, for the most part, over as well.

    If you want to help us, the best thing you can do is make sure the media's prototypically-short attention span doesn't waiver from the fact that this area needs help... big help.. not some church group handing out towels.

    What we need are people WATCHING THE MONEY that's being spent down here. That's where we need the most help. If we don't get it, New Orleans is going to end up like Iraq... with billions given to politically-connected special interest groups and no substantive infrastructure or improvement. That's the legacy the current administration is doing in the wake of an ADD populace who isn't paying attention.

    What we need most are people who are paying close attention to what the feds are doing. The people of the Gulf Coast can deal with things. If you REALLY want to help, be active politically, and insist that taxpayer money goes directly to local communities instead of Halliburton. Right now, a shitload of federal money is going to Halliburton, just like it is in Iraq.

    Don't come down here. Get on the phone and call your representatives and demand that the resources dedicated to this area are not squandered away in a plethora of no-bid contracts. That's what's happening now. Everything else is paltry compared to this.

    If you really want to help, that's what you need to do. If you want to go on some goofy, fuzzy, feel-good, field trip that won't make any significant difference, go ahead with your other plans. But I sincerely urge you to seriously consider what I'm saying. I cannot stress how important it is. WATCH THE MONEY LIKE A HAWK!! We are going to get screwed if the American people don't pay attention!